Feature completed, committed to documentation: ManagingTopics - continue dev discussion in TrashWebDev
A page delete and rename function would help to get rid of unwanted and orphaned pages. Bob's Kehei Wiki has that implemented nicely, and it is protected with author access rights. I am considering a page delete and rename function without author rights. This could be dangerous, so the user interface must be designed carefully. How about this: When you delete or rename a page, a delete / rename confirmation page would show a list of all pages that have a link to the page to be deleted / renamed, and a recommendation to update those pages first before proceeding. (The rename function could do that automatically). Deleted pages go to a Trash Can web. An undo delete function could restore pages that have been deleted unintentionally. -- PeterThoeny - 08 Mar 2000
In order to know what pages link to the deleted page, you'll need to store a database of some sort of links to pages won't you? I do really like your idea of a TrashCanWeb. How about regular users can throw pages away (into trash can) and restore them from the trashcan. Only a smaller "administration" group can actually empty the trashcan and completely eliminate the page forever. So the admin crew only needs to check the trashcan on a semi regular basis to keep the trash can from overflowing. I think if you leave files in the trashcan long enough, you won't have to worry about doing too much error checking of page deletes. And, when creating new pages in the normal wiki, you can quickly scan the trashcan and if you find a match ask if they want to restore the trashed version instead of creating a new one... -- IainShigeoka - 08 Mar 2000
I would not track links to deleted pages. It is easier and better to show a delete confirmation page that has a list of pages that have a link to the current page, this is in effect the Refered-By link at the bottom of each topic. It can be shown using inline search (the
%SEARCH{...}% variable).
Example: User wants to delete the WebNotify page. The delete confirmation page shows a list of pages that have a link:
(The above list is actually an inline search.) In case a user deletes a topic without updating the topics in above list, it would result in links to a non existing topic (WebNotify? in our example) An open question is if to check only the current web or all webs for links. It would be better to check all webs, but this gets more difficult to implement. An implementation issue is how to handle different webs. The easiest would be to create a new web called Trashcan. When topics are deleted from a web it gets moved into the Trashcan web. Questions:
ATTENTION : Before you delete this topic, make sure to update topics that have a link to the current topic: Results from Codev web retrieved at 22:59 (GMT)
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Test case...Topics previous marked with ChangesProject (withdrawn as this style of group topics wasn`t very successful): AddCheckInComment AddEntryWebVariable AllowDesignationOfSu...Bug: changes script shows only first revision not second The changes script shows, for some pages at revision 1.2, that they are NEW (first revision). The WebChanges...ChangesProject Topics This is a list of all topics classified as part of the ChangesProject tracking changes to topics including: notification methods...When someone goes through and makes edits to several topics, the WebNotify sends an email for each. It would be really nice if it cron`d only once a day, and sent...CoffeeBreakArchives 2001 It is great to see a lot of activity in this Codev web, even without e mail notification working. New features slowly but surly get into...CoffeeBreakArchives 2002 Happy New Year! 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Among the distributed topics with this propertyare WebStatistics...This is the page to discuss UI brainstorming ideas for presenting topic revisions. PaulReiber pointed me to RichardDrake`s Wiki Clone called Why , hosted at http...Feature completed, committed to documentation: .ManagingTopics continue dev discussion in TrashWebDev A page delete and rename function would help to get rid of...Bug: Uninitialized Value In Mailnotify With Empty WebNotify There is an uninitialized value bug in the 20010901 version of mailnotify triggered by having no addresses...Feature Request for Upgrade Script This topic is not a guide to upgrading TWiki. It is an old discussion topic for developers. At the moment, UpgradeTWiki is a basic...Bug: $securityFilter in TWiki.cfg is altered by UpgradeTWiki The UpgradeTWiki script alters the $securityFilter variable in TWiki.cfg . In the distribution...Email notifications currently are sent to all recipients using the To: email header line. 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Symptoms: On saving...We need a lot more FAQs Surely we can come up with numerous FAQs by perusing the logs and the support questions. Can`t say it`s all that obvious how to grovel through...Motivation When I install TWiki for clients, the first thing I do is clean up and organize the `web admin topics` vs everything else. I`d love for the default to handle...TWiki understands now Web.TopicName and Web/TopicName interchangeably in the extended URL path and in the GoBox. The following URLs point to the same topic:...WebMetaTopics The topics which are included in a web and which contain information that describe the web or control how it works. These topics include: WebPreferences...I have noticed that WebNotify sends notifications out with all users listed in the To: header. Hence, some emails may have 10 25 lines of `To` entries, as well as...Web Notification Tip: Instead of subscribing here, it is easier to `watch` topics of interest. Watching topics gives you the choice of immediate notification...Feature Proposal: An easier way to subscribe to topics Motivation The current system for signing up to WebNotify is too technical for the people I am trying to roll...Can people have a look at the updated docs for the WebNotify feature, in Codev.WebNotify ? OmittingEmailInWebNotify is now implemented but everyone seems to be...From OmittingEmailInWebNotify: Allow topic writers to exclude specific topics from ever being notified by setting a variable inside the topic (possibly commented out...Web Notify ignores changes to EMail I`ve changed my email on the Subscribe / Unsubscribe page: http://TWiki.org/cgi bin/view/Codev/WebNotify But mail is still...Anyone implemented a system to post diffs of the changes to topics out with the WebNotify report? 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For the moment I assume that WorkFlow means that we would like that some work flows through a series of steps, performed by different users with different...An enhanced but simple notification system Please read ConsolidateNotification and MailerContrib Based on work of PatrickNomblot on a MailNotificationEnhanced I have...
- What to do if a topic with the same name already exists in the Trashcan? Simply delete?
- How to remember the original web from where the topic was deleted? Prepending the web name would be easy (i.e. deleting topic Codev.WebNotify would result in a CodevWebNotify topic in the Trashcan web), but that would result in broken links in the Trashcan for multiple topics deleted from the same web.
- What to do if the user restores (undeletes) a topic and the topic already exists in the original web?
A possible implementation scheme: To delete a page, delete all of the content of the page. At regular intervals, a reaper checks for zero-length .txt files in the data directories (perhaps in any dirs.) It moves the .txt,v files into a hidden TrashCanWeb if the zero length topic has been some amount of time since it's last revision. Five days sounds like a good number. When a topic is moved, it is backed up one rev and marked with a reap date of the day the topic was deleted. A "magic" redirection topic in the TrashCanWeb has the topic's wiki path ("Web.Topi
"file://whatever" to display the file as text. This allows copying but not editing.
An extra link like "recover" could mark the file in some way as a file to be recovered by the reaper, which could move it back to it's original web in it's last non-empty rev unless the topic name has already been reused in which case it could append something to the topic name (like "Recovered" or something.)
In order to reuse topic names, TWiki has to do some "out of the box" version control. A name in the TrashCanWeb could be reused if the user deliberately and specifically invoked "create." The topic in the TrashCanWeb could have it's extension changed to .1.txt (this might require some RCS or whatever finagling) and the new topic would have an extension of .2.txt; this could go on ad infinitum.
This implementation requires little or no administrator intervention, no extra forms processing for deletion, allows the file to be recovered before deletion if someone objects, and is completely reversible. I think the modifications to the existing code would not be such that a rewrite would be necessary; probably the biggest coding task would be the reaper and the extra scripts for the TrashCanWeb.
-- KevinKinnell - 08 May 2000 I don't know Kevin, it seems rather complicated compared to PeterThoeny's idea and I'm not sure if it's worth the effort. Giving every (registered) user the option of moving a topic to the TrashCanWeb and having a special group of users ('admin') which can truly delete stuff from the trashcan would be sufficient for me. Some kind of collision detection for moving topics to TrashCanWeb would be a Good Thing IMO, something like CodevWebNotify would be fine; one caveat, usage of webnames with mixedcapitals should be forbidden, not discouraged (so TrashCanWeb becomes Trashcan). Let's keep things simple when someone restores a topic which has been created again; just append the newly created content to the content which is being restored and have the person who restores the subject sort things out. Related to this: what's going to happen to the broken links? I'm in favor of leaving them alone until an admin deletes the topic from the trashcan, but I'm not sure what to do to the broken links at that point. One option would be to replace the twikinames with 'normal' text (i.e. TextFormattingRules becomes text formatting rules). -- PeterFokkinga - 09 May 2000
I like Kevin's idea of deleting topic text to eventually delete a topic. It is a radical, but very logical and wiki'ish idea once you grasp it. However, most people nowadays are used to a trashcan or recycle bin. Also the implementation is probably easier. I vote for the original idea. What we need to sort out first is how to implement user privileges like guests, users, admin. Related topics: AdminToolsDev, UserAuthorizationSchemes FYI, I added a new TopicClassification called
(delete topic) . This is a workaround until we have the feature. From time to time I will manually purge topics declared as (delete topic) .
-- PeterThoeny - 09 May 2000 You should add some logic to stop '(deleted)' webs appearing on the Changes page and email. Plus make sure the Deleted Webs list page doesn't appear on any of the public pages. So the page is still accessible in the Deleted Web virtual pages via a direct url, but essentially remoed from public view. Of course the issue arises when someone recreates a web which is in the delete list, then puts it into the delete list. -- NicholasLee - 09 May 2000
I hadn't considered the email notification, but you're right. If the changes script gets replaced by a search call, there won't be a problem with it, but email notification is sticky. We could still use the rest of the reaper scheme to do deletions; how the reaper decides what to move to the Trash is immaterial--it's just a marker. The reaper scheme is pretty modular, and it doesn't require access control and whatnot, though it will work with that too. The reaper itself doesn't need to be implemented solely as a cron job; it could be triggered by a deletion request. (I would strongly suggest that any script that gets written to do any administrivial task be written so that it could be used as a cron job, even if it's designed to be triggered immediately as well.) -- KevinKinnell - 10 May 2000
About the problem of name clashing when a topic is moved to a TrashCanWeb:
- To avoid name clashing when two topics with same name in two different webs are deleted I would move the topic to a subdirectory of Thrashcanweb named after the original web. (notice that TWiki already partially handles subwebs)
- What about the rcs version file? (*,v) It should probably be moved too.
- If a topic with same name and web is deleted again I would like to have it added as a new revision of the page in the TrashCanWeb. (But what about its previous versions?)
I may be missing something here, but ignoring attachements for a moment, why not just remove the .txt file, keeping the RCS file. If page is subsequently re-created, the RCS file has a new entry added to it as normal. To indicate file was once deleted in RCS the file could be first emptied and checked in or an RCS symbolic name used. I guess the main disadvantage of this is that the deleted pages can not be searched without extra effort. Same could be done for attachments if they are put in RCS, which I would welcome. List of deleted pages is simply list of RCS files for which there are no .txt files. -- JohnTalintyre - 10 Jan 2001
The user interface for deleting a page should be similar to RenameTopic. One issue with both rename and delete is that sometimes a topic is simply in the wrong place. For example, we are setting up MultiLevelWikiWebs so refactoring sometimes includes "move these three existing topics into the new subgrouping". Rename / delete is a bit ugly for this. So far, we've done it only manually by directly moving the files between the directories on the server. -- StanleyKnutson - 10 Jan 2001
I recently added a delete function to the twiki I manage at my company. Here the synopsis. To address the concept of a TrashCanWeb, I opted to move the topic and associated files outside of the wiki web directory structure. The wiki admin can retrieve or purge old stuff when needed. My delete script doesn't check for delete permissions though, we're a pretty small group using twiki on our intranet. Delete Topic Button
Overview
This section provides an overview of what happens after a user presses the Delete Topic button.
Pressing the Delete Topic button submits a form to the deletetopic script, passing the current web name, current topic, and an extra variable to the CGI environment signifying that this is the initial delete request. The script reads the environment, sees this variable is set, reads the deletetopic.tmpl template and displays it to the user with a verification message.
This page runs a search for other topics that are linking to the topic to be deleted. This page also includes another delete button and a cancel button. Clicking the cancel button returns the user to the current topic. Clicking delete again sends the current web name and current topic to the deletetopic script, this time without setting an extra CGI variable.
The script then verifies that the archive directory root variable ($deletedPath) is correctly configured, displaying an error message if not (oopsdeltopic.tmpl). If needed, it creates directory structures with necessary ownership and property assignments. The script then moves the topic to be deleted, along with its corresponding change history file and any associated attachments to the archive directory structure. The ?topic is now deleted? page is now generated, again using the deletetopic.tmpl template, and gets presented to the user.
The files related to the deleted topic get moved to an archive directory rather than get removed from the filesystem. The wiki logfile gets updated to reflect the topic deleted, the user who deleted it, and when.
Directory Structure Notes
The default archive directory name is
twiki/deletedtopics. Deleted topics are stored under this directory under the same web/directory name that they originate from. For example, a topic called ExampleTopic in the Main wiki web would end up with a path of twiki/deletedtopics/Main/ExampleTopic.txt. The wiki stores attachments for topics in their own directory named after the topic. The deletetopic script will move all attachments from a particular web into a single twiki/deletedtopics/ webname /pub directory. The now empty topic/attachment directory gets removed.
Each topic typically has a topic
.txt and a topic .txt,v file. The latter is a version history file updated via calls to the rcs revision control application. When moved to the archive directory, the script appends the username and date that the file was moved to each filename. Attachment names are not altered. A resulting filename may look like this:
twiki/deletedtopics/Main/ExampleTopic.txt.200103221632.JohnDoe
The string of numbers is a four-digit year followed by two-digit values for month, day, hour, and minute.
Implementation Details
Files Affected
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twiki/bin/wiki.pm -
twiki/bin/wikicfg.bin -
twiki/bin/deletetopic - this is a new Perl script -
twiki/deletedtopics - this is a new directory -
twiki/templates/oopsdeltopic.tmpl - this is a new template -
twiki/templates/view.WebHome.tmpl - this is a new template
- Added $deletedPath and $doLogTopicDelete to the
use vars qw ()statement. - Added the following routine to be consistent with the wiki coding style:
sub getDelDir { return $deletedPath; }
wikicfg.bin
- Added
$deletedPath = "/local/httpd/twiki/deletedtopics";variable to avoid putting hardcoded locations in the Perl scripts. The directory pointed to by this variable is the root of the structure where deleted files get moved. Avoid placing this directory under the twiki/data directory or items under it may be displayed when a user performs a wiki search. - Added
$doLogTopicDelete = " 1";variable to avoid putting hardcoded option in the Perl scripts. The Perl script checks the value of this variable to decide whether to log the topic deletion to the log file.
rwx for user nobody.
deletetopic.tmpl
The deletetopic script uses this template for site look and feel elements. The script replaces the %DELETETEXT% tag with request specific content as described in the overview.
oopsdeltopic.tmpl
This template is used by the deletetopic script if the directory pointed to by $deletedPath does not exist. The script replaces the %DP% tag with the value of $deletedPath to enhance the informational message.
view.WebHome.tmpl
This template overrides the default use of view.tmpl for all WebHome topics. This template omits the delete topic button since it?s extremely rare that you would want anyone to delete the starting page of a whole web. - Note: Any future changes to the default view.tmpl will also need to be made to view.WebHome.tmpl if those changes need to appear on WebHome pages.
Smart. Would you mind attaching the code? I'd like to take a look. Thanks. M. -- MartinCleaver - 29 Mar 2001
Most of this has been added under RenameTopic, as part of TWikiReleaseSpring2001. There is a rename link for each topic. This allows:
- topic name to be changed
- WEB to be changed
- a Trash WEB allows for deletion
- a first cut attempt at changing references
Martin, here is the script and template file. I know the code can be cleaned up a bit but it works. I left some code in there from the script I cannabalized because, to be honest, I'm not sure what it does and it doesn't seem to negatively affect the code. I couldn't get the Perl rename function to work correctly, probably a tainting issue, so I used the system function to invoke the shell to do it. Probably not a great solution for a public wiki, there might be security holes there since it circumvents the whole idea of tainted data. deletetopic deletetopic.tmpl oopsdeltopic.tmpl
-- RussellTiller - 30 Mar 2001
Please see TWikiObjects -- DavidLeBlanc - 30 Mar 2001
Perhaps when following a link to a deleted page, the user could be informed that the page has been deleted, and asked whether he would still wish to view it? If so, he would ge to view it, but instead of an edit box, he would have the option if undeleting it. Viewing links to renamed pages (should they arise) could be handled similarly. The user would be infoemed that the page has been renamed, shown the page in its new location, and given the option of updating the link. This would be espacially useful if the user is editing a page and enters the old name of a topic that has been renamed since he last viewed it. -- HendrikBoom - 31 Mar 2001
Closed topic - to be refactored. Please continue discussion in TrashWebDev
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Topic revision: r23 - 2005-03-03 - WillNorris
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