General need for naming standards
I think we need some
TopicNamingStandards to lessen the chances of similar but differently named topics.
One of the Toronto
PerlMongers commented to me once that there is "liberty in constraint", that is through having rules you free up people from dealing with uncertainty of what to call things.
These would be recommendations.
e.g.
AllowMultipleForms,
MultipleFormsPerTopic
See also
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WikiNameAdvantages
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MartinCleaver - 08 Dec 2003
Agreements
I think this is a very good idea. I believe that wiki's
benefit from a gentle imposition of structure - just as a garden does. The standards are only guidelines anyway.
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LynnwoodBrown - 01 Oct 2004
I don't think you can avoid similarly named topics.
All you can do is deal with them when they occur, remembering that
CoolURIsDontChange.
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SamHasler - 02 Oct 2004
Well, yours is a classic example that renaming is inevitable.
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MartinCleaver - 25 Oct 2004
Disagreements
Other
Isn't the imposition of naming standards a bit "unwiki"? After all, the idea is that, inspired to write a
WikiWord into your text, there's a good chance it will
AutomaticallyLink to another topic. An alternative might be to think in terms of synonyms; one topic title is synonymous with another. If someone spots synonymous topic titles, they tag one of the topics and an automatic 2-way link is established. Hey, I like that!
Note the first, italicised, sentence of
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ChoosingWikiNames
See also:
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WikiNameSynonyms
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CrawfordCurrie - 13 Dec 2003
It seems to me that
TopicNamingStandards is a facet of a couple of larger wiki-related questions I've been pondering of late. One is the broad question of how to
gently encourage content organization to avoid the phenomena of
WikiThickets. (BTW, this is exactly the problem inherent to hypertext systems that
InformationMapping was designed to address.)
TopicNamingStandards is one aspects of this.
The other question is where are
WikiWord topic names really approapriate and where are they not. I know this may sound like wiki heresy but let me give an example. I have set up a quasi-weblog within
my personal wiki
and have found that I get tired of trying to come up with unique
WikiWord titles for each weblog entry. Consequently, I'm leaning towards reworking it to use automatic naming (i.e. WebLog + time stamp). At the other end of the spectrum, the topics where
WikiWords are
best suited are key concepts that one might routinely insert in discussions. Another illustration of this dicotomy, IMHO, is provided right here on TWiki.org.
In general WikiWord topic names work well for the content of Codev web but are less-than-ideal for the content in Support web. How many unique
WikiWord topic names can you come up with for, say, installation problems? And yet you do want unique topics for individual help requests (I think). Again, I realize I fringing of
WikiHeresy here but I think it's worth considering.
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LynnwoodBrown - 01 Oct 2004
Just wanted to put in this reference as it's relevant to this discussion:
Microcontent: How to Write Headlines, Page Titles, and Subject Lines
by Jakob Nielsen.
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LynnwoodBrown - 12 Oct 2004
I think we need to install
RedirectPlugin so that we can redirect similarly named topics.
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SamHasler - 02 Oct 2004
This should be request on
PleaseInstallPluginsAtTWikiDotOrg
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MartinCleaver - 02 Oct 2004
Avoid naming topics containing the word "Of"
- Avoid naming topics with "Of", e.g. AspectOfRegulation. Instead name this RegulationAspect. It pluralises naturally, is RegulationAspects instead of AspectsOfRegulation - TWiki would not autolink AspectsOf.. to AspectOf
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MartinCleaver - 01 Oct 2004
When referring to a known concept, use the whole topic name in the new topic.
- If your topic is about the WebLeftBar, for example, your related conversation could be on WebLeftBarGraphicalIcons, or GraphicalIconsForWebLeftBar, but not GraphicEnhancedLeftWebBar
- We should have tools that help with detecting possible matches - the user should not need to have knowledge about all topic names.
- Can we make guidelines about the circumstances the drive the placement - e.g. suffix vs prefix?
- Maybe this is what people are really aiming at: CommaSeparatedWikiWordRendering
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MartinCleaver - 25 Oct 2004
Name in the singular
TWiki automatically links plural referrers (like TWikiForms) to singlar topics (TWikiForm) so there is little point making topics named in the plural. A reference of the singular
TWikiForm, however, would not automatically link to plural name
TWikiForms.
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MartinCleaver - 02 Jan 2005
There are some other inconsistencies with the plural<->singular conversion.
- If you visit the singular url (type it in the address bar) you won't automatically be redirected to the plural topic name.
- the %INCLUDE% variable doesn't do the translation, but the error message it outputs does, causing confusion.
- Plural links as form field names do not link to the singular topic in edit mode. e.g. TWikiContributors on the new ChangeProposalForm
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SamHasler - 07 Jan 2005