http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2003/05/14/kwiki.html

-- MartinCleaver - 16 May 2003

I am no way expert Linux admin, but installing CGI::Kwiki from CPAN took me whole 15 minutes including download. Why Twiki cannot have this kind of installer? To keep unwashed admins out? They will just swith to Kwiki - BTW changing formatting rules is in examples of customizing, and script to upgrade to next version is included. If you do not believe me it's possible, set aside 15 minutes and try yourself.

-- PeterMasiar - 10 Jun 2003

Twiki has TWikiUnixInstaller - it needs to be better promoted and get some official OK if it deserves it. And TWikiUpgrade is still much pain.

-- PeterMasiar - 09 Jul 2003

I note from http://www.kwiki.org/?KwikiAbout that Kwiki now supports RCS as a backend. (and Blogging). Refreshingly, it's preview cycle is optional and you can use Kwiki:KwikiTemplateToolkit

-- MartinCleaver - 27 Aug 2003

Ingy, author of Kwiki, got a job hacking Kwiki for an OpenSource company. So expect Kwiki to grow fast :-/ http://ingy.kwiki.org/blog.cgi?20030821183018 . And Ingy promised to add many features of Twiki (like namespaces = webs, and per-user rights), to enable people to move from Twiki to Kwiki.

This is meant not as a promotion of Kwiki, but as a wake-up call for CoreTeam. Many of us invested (time) heavily. We want to keep Twiki relevant - and the best wiki.

-- PeterMasiar - 27 Aug 2003

Yowza, Peter is right about easy kwiki install. RCS works (but doesn't have twiki locking) and some fellow just added rough image uploading (see http://www.kwiki.org/index.cgi?PikiWiki). Kwiki's object oriented design makes it easy to extend; it will be interesting to see how Ingy manages its growth. It is very simple now but could get messy as more twiki features are added. The original OO design may help here.

Tough call. ("Indifferent" is not my emotion but seems closest to "ambivalent" .)

-- DavidKing - 01 Sep 2003

Just saw this, reasons why PerlMongers don't like TWiki: on http://yapc.kwiki.org/index.cgi?KwikiBOF

They've not mentioned the sodding forced preview, but WTH.

-- MartinCleaver - 26 Sep 2003

Nice to see that people are collecting reasons why they don't like TWiki, but I'm sure it's meant in the right spirit ... Interesting that they mentioned NoRegisterDownload as an issue, but it doesn't surprise me that they wanted a CPAN-oriented Wiki.

-- RichardDonkin - 26 Sep 2003