From: Peter Thoeny Subject: KampalaMeetingLog-2017-07-06.txt Date: July 7, 2017 at 12:21:39 AM PDT To: Peter Thoeny [15:01:18] Hi Peter [15:01:19] guten abend HaraldJoerg. good morning HideyoImazu-san! [15:01:30] Hello Peter [15:01:51] Hi Harald [15:01:51] back to regular schedule for me [15:02:00] what new in germany and japan? [15:02:28] Not only for Germany: Debian 9 is out [15:03:16] ah [15:03:32] i don't really follow debian, so i did not know [15:04:01] what's great about Debian 9? [15:04:12] Perl 5.24, for a start [15:04:50] And lots of upgrades for packages with high development activities, like ansible and dancer2 [15:06:12] Dancer2 is bundled and used for some management UI or something? [15:06:51] No, but it's a web application framework I've started to use [15:07:02] ah, ok [15:07:04] Runs fine without Apache [15:07:08] what is the status with centos? [15:07:26] latest seems v 7, released in 2014 [15:08:35] I don't see a published roadmap on their site [15:09:02] https://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS7 [15:09:11] latest update dec 2016 [15:09:33] latest twiki vm is based on centos 6 [15:09:54] which will have end of life nov 2020 [15:10:16] centos 7 end of life is jun 2024 [15:11:35] So, no need to hurry [15:12:56] googled for redhat roadmap [15:12:57] https://www.redhat.com/cms/managed-files/1_BREAKOUT_Raum2_rechts_25_Jahre_Linux_Matthias_Pfuetzner_0410_1130_0.pdf [15:13:08] that presentation from dec 2016 [15:13:40] further releases of v7 through 2018 [15:13:46] no mention of v8 [15:14:09] ok, shall we start with meeting? [15:14:24] http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/KampalaReleaseMeeting2017x07x06 [15:14:36] 1. Feature Requests for Kampala Release [15:14:36] 2. Extensions [15:14:36] 3. Review Urgent and Not So Urgent Bugs [15:14:36] 4. TWiki Release Discussion [15:14:36] 5. Miscellaneous [15:14:53] ---++ 1. Feature Requests for Kampala Release [15:15:11] http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/WebChanges [15:15:50] HideyoImazu_ (ddfc2e55@gateway/web/freenode/ip.221.252.46.85) joined the channel [15:15:54] prev meeting was 3 weeks ago [15:16:27] only one feature topic update [15:16:28] http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/CreateWebExcludeTopic [15:16:50] i have seen checkin from you HideyoImazu-san on this one [15:17:02] it's done [15:17:07] Nice [15:17:17] nice [15:17:31] you can toggle the status [15:17:40] thank you for your feedback, Harald [15:18:06] ---++ 2. Extensions [15:18:11] You're welcome! [15:18:16] http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/WebChanges [15:18:33] no updates [15:18:46] HideyoImazu (ddfc2e55@gateway/web/freenode/ip.221.252.46.85) left IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [15:19:00] anything you'd like to cover on core features or extensions? [15:19:28] no [15:19:31] Not from me [15:19:43] ---++ 3. Review Urgent and Not So Urgent Bugs [15:19:51] http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/WebChanges [15:19:53] its status has been "merged to core" for a day or two [15:20:59] TWikibug:Item7815: Coping with zero byte RCS file [15:21:08] http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/Item7815 [15:21:53] for unknown reason, I come across this problem recently [15:21:55] hmm, what do you recommend as ection? [15:22:05] "action" [15:22:22] simply remove zero byte file? [15:22:29] yes [15:22:53] that's best we can do, I suppose, under those circumstances [15:23:16] makes sense since wiped out [15:23:43] or, is there a way to create rcs file to temp location, then try again if fail? [15:24:15] and the existing code does the best it can do. keeping the current revision and the new revision [15:24:21] but as initial workaround, simply deleting the rcs file is a pragmatic approach [15:24:56] Yes, delete as an immediate action and then restore from a backup [15:25:27] but restoring from backup needs manual intervention and an alert to know about the issue [15:25:50] so the enhancement shows what happened to the user [15:26:16] and put things to the warning log [15:26:21] Which is fine in my opionion because if it happens too often then some storage guys should check the NAS options [15:26:59] next: [15:27:03] TWikibug:Item7816: Excluding specified topics when creating a new web [15:27:09] we talked about this already [15:27:14] this is all on bugs [15:27:15] Yep [15:27:18] since last time [15:27:25] any other bug items? [15:27:50] I still need to re-fix Item7796 to take HideyoImazu's feedback into account [15:28:01] ok [15:28:27] ah, the carp issue [15:28:36] Ah, I'll remove the "waiting for release" flag until it's done [15:28:55] ---++ 4. TWiki Release Discussion [15:29:02] no update on my side [15:29:20] now pre-empted by server migration and twiki upgrade on twiki.org [15:29:30] any update on your side? [15:29:54] nothing from me [15:30:11] so let's move to last item: [15:30:15] ---++ 5. Miscellaneous [15:30:29] i'd like to give status update on server migration [15:30:35] any other topic besides this? [15:31:09] I've got none [15:31:58] ok [15:32:01] quick update [15:32:17] i contacted the isp on twiki upgrade [15:32:47] i should soon have a new vm with latest production twiki [15:32:57] i'll do the migration of data [15:33:26] wondering if i should upgrade to latest trunk, or keep 6.0.2 [15:33:30] what do you think? [15:34:16] after that i'll migrate develop.twiki.org to a new virtual host on the new server [15:34:30] data is already there, as part of daily backup [15:34:51] twiki.org has been running the latest release, right? [15:34:57] no [15:35:15] ok [15:35:27] it first had 6.0.0, then partial upgrades [15:35:34] it is somewhat near 6.0.2 [15:35:53] then, how about making it true 6.0.2? [15:36:03] that is what i am debating [15:36:27] simply use latest vm out of the box, or upgrade to latest trunk since we should have soon a new release [15:36:30] I'm for it [15:36:34] trunk is quite stable [15:37:02] for what? [15:37:19] That could be a final test before the release [15:37:28] yes [15:37:40] a bit more work to use trunk, but not much [15:38:02] ok, i look into this path then [15:38:33] we have to move off develop.twiki.org server since the service will be terminated by mid august [15:39:17] that is all i have for now [15:40:06] anything else? [15:40:50] not from me [15:41:11] I don't have anything... been rather busy exploring the new debian version [15:41:17] ok [15:41:23] let's close the meeting [15:41:34] TWiki trunk runs quite fine on Debian 9 [15:41:35] i'll post the minutes and logs [15:41:48] thank you HideyoImazu-san & HaraldJoerg! [15:41:50] ttyl [15:41:54] TTYL! [15:42:00] TTYL! -- Peter Thoeny - Peter09[at]Thoeny.org http://TWiki.org/Mr.TWiki - consulting on enterprise collaboration http://TWiki.org - is your team already TWiki enabled? http://qualityHDR.com - Quality HDR Photography Knowledge cannot be managed, it can be discovered and shared This e-mail is: (_) private (_) ask first (x) public