Subject: KampalaMeetingLog-2017-05-18.txt Date: May 18, 2017 at 3:47:36 PM PDT [15:04:34] Hello Peter [15:05:02] Hi Peter [15:06:48] hi HaraldJoerg & HideyoImazu-san [15:06:51] sorry to be late [15:07:09] no worries. you didn't miss a lot [15:07:10] got an errant and traffic was bad [15:07:32] what's new in tokyo and germany? [15:07:58] Finally, it got warmer and sunny this week [15:08:49] it's cooler than usual, but it's getting hotter [15:09:07] we are going to launch rockets on sat [15:09:12] today's high will be 25C and tomorrow's 30C or so [15:11:04] shall we start? [15:11:12] http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/KampalaReleaseMeeting2017x05x18 [15:11:13] Sure [15:11:28] 1. Feature Requests for Kampala Release [15:11:28] 2. Extensions [15:11:28] 3. Review Urgent and Not So Urgent Bugs [15:11:28] 4. TWiki Release Discussion [15:11:28] 5. Miscellaneous [15:11:34] i have one misc [15:11:51] but lets go one by one [15:11:59] 1. Feature Requests for Kampala Release [15:12:10] http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/WebChanges [15:13:22] nothing since last time [15:13:28] anything on features? [15:13:42] I don't have news [15:13:49] ---++ 2. Extensions [15:13:59] http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Plugins/WebChanges [15:15:00] quiet here too [15:15:11] anything on extensions? [15:15:14] I only did the documentation and build for PublishContrib for Perl 5.20 [15:15:53] did you upload a new package? [15:15:57] if not i can help [15:15:58] Yes [15:16:01] ok [15:16:21] but i don't see the topic updated [15:16:39] sorry, now i see after reload [15:16:42] :-) [15:16:52] thanks! [15:17:04] ---++ 3. Review Urgent and Not So Urgent Bugs [15:17:11] http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/WebChanges [15:17:43] Item7784 is now closed, that's again PublishContrib [15:17:54] ok [15:18:03] Item7809: Sanitize code [15:18:18] we got a report that requires a fix [15:18:26] i am on it [15:18:41] it only applies if search is set to PurePerl [15:19:01] the person who reported is doing more testing so i wait for his result [15:19:48] TWikibug:Item7810: Case sensitive LDAPContrib login and group configuration parameters don't work [15:20:11] i might look at this, depending on time [15:20:34] TWikibug:Item7811: A few related GMT/BST (gmtime/localtime) / daylight-saving time queries/problems. TWiki uses GMT but (I believe probably) should use BST [15:20:38] by HaraldJoerg [15:20:43] anything to add? [15:20:49] No, that's also by Tom Crane [15:21:16] I just added a remark that this is the same story as Item7752 [15:21:38] SERVERTIME and everything related to it is broken in 6.0.2 [15:21:44] yes, just read now [15:22:30] ah [15:22:37] maybe I'm responsible [15:22:55] let me take a look [15:23:02] thank you HideyoImazu-san [15:23:12] these are all changes since last time [15:23:16] anything else? [15:23:43] Item7808 is another problem in PublishContrib [15:24:11] Not related to Perl 5.20. It seems that the Contrib isn't aware of protected attachments [15:24:32] hmm, the develop server is kind of slow [15:25:49] looks like, i am not familiar with this contrib, i use another publish extension [15:25:58] ---++ 4. TWiki Release Discussion [15:26:09] i have made no progress :-( [15:26:20] same here :-( [15:27:28] the sanitize code issue might warrant a new release [15:27:33] not sure though [15:27:46] it only applies to sites using PurePerl search [15:27:52] default is native grep [15:28:19] The Windows personal app is using PurePerl search [15:28:20] what is your estimate of sites using default vs PurePerl? [15:29:25] For non-Unix platforms PurePerl is always an option [15:29:37] As well as for web servers written in Perl [15:29:40] rebuild your windows personal is easy, right? not as complicated as a new twiki production release [15:29:53] It is quite easy, yes [15:30:11] I hope that the same build process can some day be used for TWiki, too [15:30:55] ah, good point [15:31:22] if possible i would like to avoid a 6.0.3 patch release and go for a new 6.1.0 production release [15:32:20] but for 6.1.0 i'd like to have the app packaging in [15:32:42] timing question, and question if the sanitizing warrants a new release [15:32:57] we don't need to decide today [15:33:08] anything else on release? [15:34:02] I think some of the unit tests need work [15:34:37] But that's not strictly related to a release [15:34:48] ok [15:35:02] ---++ 5. Miscellaneous [15:35:07] i have one item [15:35:11] do you have anything? [15:35:20] I don't [15:35:44] no [15:35:47] it's about the develop.twiki.org hosting saga with datapipe [15:36:34] after a lot of back on forth on the extra cost we agreed that i pay "just" $311 instead of around $700 [15:36:37] so i did [15:36:44] but now there is a new problem [15:37:03] they are terminating the free hosting as of 16 august [15:37:31] so i had the cost and now work of relocating the server [15:37:36] kind of bummed about that [15:38:24] so how should we proceed? [15:38:39] option 1: move develop to twiki.org [15:38:48] option 2: search for a new free provider [15:39:06] option 3: get a new server in the cloud and pay [15:39:41] i will follow up to look into option 1 with current provider [15:39:56] for option 2 please help look around [15:40:36] i think we should use option 3 as last option [15:40:44] what is your take on this? [15:41:06] it depends of cost. [15:41:46] if the cost of a good enough server is minimal (e.g. 10 USD), option 3 is worth considering [15:42:51] i don't think a $10 shared hosting is sufficient [15:43:01] we need root login and enough memory [15:43:31] maybe it's a tall order to have those for $10/month [15:43:32] so aws or g cloud will be around $50-60 for a vm [15:45:34] sorry I need to run now. [15:45:39] TTYL [15:45:49] HideyoImazu (ddfc2e55@gateway/web/freenode/ip.221.252.46.85) left IRC (Quit: Page closed) [15:46:04] ok, let's close the meeting [15:46:21] Ok [15:46:23] thank you HaraldJoerg & hideyo-san! [15:46:28] ttyl [15:46:32] TTYL