Subject: KampalaMeetingLog2016x12x01.txt
Date: December 1, 2016 at 3:46:22 PM PST

[2:57pm] HaraldJoerg: Good evening!
[2:58pm]  HideyoImazu joined the chat room.
[3:01pm] PeterThoeny: guten abend HaraldJoerg
[3:01pm] PeterThoeny: おはようございます HideyoImazu-san
[3:01pm] HideyoImazu: good afternoon, Peter
[3:02pm] PeterThoeny: what's new in gemany and japan?
[3:02pm] PeterThoeny: (sorry, "r" key still stuck
[3:02pm] HaraldJoerg: It's cold here this week
[3:02pm] HideyoImazu: it's already in flu season
[3:03pm] HaraldJoerg: Ah, and that, too 
[3:03pm] HideyoImazu: earlier than usual
[3:03pm] PeterThoeny: flu aound here too
[3:03pm] PeterThoeny: drink that lemon juice!
[3:04pm] HideyoImazu: lemon juice is effective for flu?
[3:04pm] PeterThoeny: this weekend we fly to tokyo
[3:04pm] PeterThoeny: looking forwad to that
[3:04pm] HideyoImazu: do you have a main mission to visit Japan?
[3:05pm] PeterThoeny: no mission
[3:05pm] PeterThoeny: i have not been in japan for over 10 years
[3:05pm] PeterThoeny: my daugther is going to a conference in tokyo
[3:05pm] HideyoImazu: ok
[3:05pm] PeterThoeny: we will meet her after that is ove, then visit friends and travel around japan
[3:06pm] PeterThoeny: snow monkeys, edo style villages etc
[3:06pm] PeterThoeny: possibly visit our temple friends in ogaki too
[3:08pm] PeterThoeny: my friend mae areservation at an izakaya at ryogoku station for 12/09
[3:08pm] PeterThoeny: i'll send you the info HideyoImazu-san
[3:09pm] PeterThoeny: time check: +9min
[3:09pm] PeterThoeny: shall we start?
[3:09pm] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/KampalaReleaseMeeting2016x12x01
[3:09pm] PeterThoeny: 1. Feature Requests for Kampala Release
[3:09pm] PeterThoeny: 2. Extensions
[3:09pm] PeterThoeny: 3. Review Urgent and Not So Urgent Bugs
[3:09pm] PeterThoeny: 4. Miscellaneous
[3:11pm] PeterThoeny: am i still online? can you see this?
[3:11pm] HideyoImazu: yes
[3:11pm] HaraldJoerg: I can read your question
[3:11pm] PeterThoeny: ok
[3:11pm] PeterThoeny: ---++ 1. Feature Requests for Kampala Release
[3:11pm] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/WebChanges
[3:12pm] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/DatalistFormFieldType
[3:12pm] PeterThoeny: new proposal by Jani Hamalainen
[3:12pm] PeterThoeny: no committed developer
[3:12pm] PeterThoeny: and no date
[3:13pm] HideyoImazu: did Jani do some activities in the past?
[3:14pm] PeterThoeny: mainly in support web, he is asking and answeing questions
[3:14pm] HaraldJoerg: I don't know whether he's a developer or just a user, but he contributes to Support answers frequently
[3:14pm] PeterThoeny: he is a developer
[3:14pm] PeterThoeny: we should invite him to get more active with the dev comunity
[3:14pm] PeterThoeny: i'll ping him
[3:14pm] PeterThoeny: as for this request, what do you think?
[3:15pm] PeterThoeny: core feature? plugin?
[3:15pm] HaraldJoerg: datalist is new in HTML5, but I'd say if we support it, then it should go into the core
[3:16pm] PeterThoeny: it looks like his poposed fature is handcrafted, not html5
[3:16pm] HaraldJoerg: The datalist element is HTML5
[3:16pm] HaraldJoerg: http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_datalist.asp
[3:17pm] PeterThoeny: i think there are several variants on multi-select and list-adds
[3:17pm] HaraldJoerg: I haven't seen it in practical use so far
[3:17pm] PeterThoeny: there are also many use cases
[3:18pm] PeterThoeny: i'd say best to create a plugin now, let it evolve, then add as a core plugin, or functionality into core
[3:18pm] PeterThoeny: use cases:pedetermined list
[3:18pm] HideyoImazu: I tend to agree because it's more about UI rather than new kind of data
[3:19pm] PeterThoeny: - predetermined list, add/remove fom set
[3:19pm] PeterThoeny: - predetermined list, add/remove fom set, and add your own
[3:20pm] PeterThoeny: - add your own list, no predetermined list
[3:20pm] PeterThoeny: there are probably more
[3:20pm] PeterThoeny: then you might want to show a different text than its value
[3:20pm] PeterThoeny: etc
[3:21pm] HaraldJoerg: I think that the datalist definition should somehow be part of a TWiki forms definition
[3:22pm] PeterThoeny: twiki's UserReports already has some
[3:23pm] PeterThoeny: i am fine if in core
[3:23pm] PeterThoeny: if in core, then it shoul be compatible with html5 and pre-html5
[3:24pm] PeterThoeny: i'll add some comments to his proporal; feel free to do the same
[3:24pm] HaraldJoerg: ok
[3:24pm] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/GroupsAdditionalFunctionality
[3:24pm] PeterThoeny: also by Jani Hamalainen
[3:25pm] PeterThoeny: no commited developer and date
[3:25pm] PeterThoeny: looks like a sensible idea
[3:25pm] PeterThoeny: i added a comment to add himself as a committed developer with date of commitment, then implement this 
and add a patch to this topic
[3:25pm] HaraldJoerg: Indeed. I was surprised that e.g. the ingroup clause of %IF% does also not expand subgroups
[3:25pm] PeterThoeny: any feedback on this?
[3:26pm] PeterThoeny: yes, probably good to have an expand yes/no flag
[3:27pm] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/AntiSpamEmailGuestPadding - by PeterJones
[3:27pm] PeterThoeny: accepted last time, and implemented
[3:28pm] HaraldJoerg: Looks fine
[3:28pm] PeterThoeny: other proposals we talked about last time
[3:28pm] PeterThoeny: any other feature idea you'd lik to discuss?
[3:29pm] PeterThoeny: ---+ 2. Extensions
[3:29pm] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Plugins/WebChanges
[3:30pm] PeterThoeny: no new changes since last time in plugins web
[3:30pm] PeterThoeny: here is one in support web:
[3:30pm] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Support/SID-02277
[3:30pm] PeterThoeny: JQueryPlugin - JQTAB - parameter for heading (h1..h6)
[3:31pm] PeterThoeny: incompatibility of jqueryplugin and pdfplugin combination
[3:31pm] PeterThoeny: eported with proposed fix by ChristianVoigt
[3:31pm] PeterThoeny: "reported"
[3:32pm] PeterThoeny: we should test and take fix
[3:32pm] PeterThoeny: anyboty interested in following up?
[3:32pm] HaraldJoerg: I admit that I never used the PDF addon nor JQueryPlugin - no knowhow
[3:33pm] HideyoImazu: i'm using genpdfaddon
[3:33pm] HideyoImazu: let me take a look
[3:33pm] PeterThoeny: thank you!
[3:34pm] PeterThoeny: this is all on extensions
[3:34pm] PeterThoeny: anything lse?
[3:34pm] PeterThoeny: ---++ 3. Review Urgent and Not So Urgent Bugs
[3:34pm] PeterThoeny: http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/WebChanges
[3:35pm] PeterThoeny: only items related to topics we covered
[3:35pm] PeterThoeny: anything else?
[3:35pm] HaraldJoerg: Nope
[3:35pm] PeterThoeny: ---+ 4. Miscellaneous
[3:35pm] PeterThoeny: anything?
[3:36pm] HaraldJoerg: Not from me... these days I write lots of TWiki content, but no code
[3:36pm] PeterThoeny: i have one item
[3:37pm] PeterThoeny: the person who reported a vulnerabilities is asking again
[3:37pm] PeterThoeny: last time i could not reproduce
[3:37pm] PeterThoeny: we should investigate again
[3:37pm] PeterThoeny: but i do not have much time before i leave for japan
[3:37pm] PeterThoeny: i could ask him to stand by
[3:38pm] PeterThoeny: what do you think?
[3:38pm] HideyoImazu: let me try looking into it
[3:38pm] HaraldJoerg: What sort of vulnerability?
[3:38pm] PeterThoeny: supposedly xss
[3:38pm] PeterThoeny: thank you HideyoImazu-san!
[3:40pm] PeterThoeny: anything else?
[3:41pm] HideyoImazu: nope
[3:42pm] PeterThoeny: if not, let's close the meting
[3:42pm] PeterThoeny: i'll post the logs and minutes as usual
[3:42pm] HideyoImazu: TTYL
[3:42pm] HaraldJoerg: TTYL
[3:43pm] PeterThoeny: as for next meeting, not sure yet if i have internet access, depends where i will be, e.g. i might bail out
[3:43pm] PeterThoeny: ttyl
[3:43pm]  HaraldJoerg left the chat room. (Quit: HaraldJoerg)
[3:43pm] PeterThoeny: thank you HideyoImazu-san & harald