Subject: KampalaMeetingLog2015x11x05.txt
Date: November 6, 2015 12:59:24 AM PST

[3:03pm] PeterThoeny: hi hideyo-san
[3:03pm] HideyoImazu: Hi Peter
[3:04pm] PeterThoeny: what's new?
[3:04pm] HideyoImazu: I was in Shanghai and Hong Kong last week
[3:04pm] HideyoImazu: as you saw on my postings on Facebook
[3:04pm] PeterThoeny: yup, good food?
[3:05pm] HideyoImazu: various kinds of Chinese food
[3:05pm] HideyoImazu: Xinjian style
[3:05pm] HideyoImazu: Shanghai style
[3:06pm] HideyoImazu: and Hong Kong dim sum
[3:06pm] HideyoImazu: behind the great firewall, all Google services were out without VPN
[3:06pm] PeterThoeny: i loooove hkg dim sum
[3:06pm] HideyoImazu: but Apple services were available
[3:07pm] HideyoImazu: Uber was available both in Shanghai and Hong Kong
[3:07pm] PeterThoeny: funny everybody in china with some knowledge uses vpn to circumvent the blocks
[3:08pm] PeterThoeny: not sure why the chinese gov still blocks websites
[3:08pm] HideyoImazu: I hear that
[3:08pm] HideyoImazu: the government is concerning mass movement agains them
[3:09pm] HideyoImazu: so the net restriction is done enough to achieve that
[3:11pm] HideyoImazu: now that DST in the states ends, this meeting starts at 8am rather than 7am, which is way 
better to me
[3:11pm] PeterThoeny: good for you 
[3:11pm] PeterThoeny: time: +11min
[3:11pm] PeterThoeny: let;s start
[3:11pm] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/KampalaReleaseMeeting2015x11x05
[3:11pm] PeterThoeny: agenda:
[3:11pm] PeterThoeny: 1. Feature Requests for Kampala Release
[3:11pm] PeterThoeny: 2. Extensions
[3:11pm] PeterThoeny: 3. Review Urgent and Not So Urgent Bugs
[3:11pm] PeterThoeny: 4. Miscellaneous
[3:12pm] PeterThoeny: ---++ 1. Feature Requests for Kampala Release
[3:12pm] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/TWikiFeatureProposals
[3:12pm] PeterThoeny: and
[3:12pm] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/WebChanges
[3:13pm] PeterThoeny: no change since last meeting
[3:13pm] PeterThoeny: anything?
[3:13pm] HideyoImazu: nothing from me
[3:14pm] PeterThoeny: ---++ 2. Extensions
[3:14pm] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Plugins/WebChanges
[3:14pm] PeterThoeny: HeadlinesPlugin:
[3:15pm] PeterThoeny: enhanced based on client needs:
[3:15pm] PeterThoeny: - new filter and newline parameters
[3:15pm] PeterThoeny: - fix Atom feed parser to support Google Alerts
[3:15pm] PeterThoeny: JStorageContrib:
[3:15pm] PeterThoeny: new twiki extension
[3:16pm] HideyoImazu: what's behind JStorageContrib ?
[3:16pm] PeterThoeny: quite useful for a more responsive browsing experience
[3:16pm] PeterThoeny: responsive as in speed
[3:16pm] PeterThoeny: browsers have cookies, and have another separate storage for local storage
[3:17pm] PeterThoeny: cookie storage is small
[3:17pm] PeterThoeny: that separate storage is larger
[3:17pm] PeterThoeny: meant to store app logic and data by javascript based apps
[3:18pm] HideyoImazu: what sort of feature have you implemented so far with JStorageContrib?
[3:18pm] PeterThoeny: for off-line use, or for caching
[3:18pm] PeterThoeny: client has an existing sidebar where they pull data via a rest call
[3:19pm] PeterThoeny: time critical data is shown in sidebar
[3:19pm] PeterThoeny: that data is refreshed once per minute
[3:19pm] PeterThoeny: the rest call takes time, and in big company with 10k users puts a load on the server
[3:20pm] PeterThoeny: with this extension you can store the data in the browser
[3:20pm] PeterThoeny: so, when you click click click on links, you see cached data in the sidebar (unless cache 
age is too old)
[3:22pm] PeterThoeny: does that make sense?
[3:22pm] HideyoImazu: yes, it does
[3:22pm] PeterThoeny: see example code at:
[3:22pm] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Plugins/JStorageContrib
[3:24pm] PeterThoeny: next:
[3:24pm] PeterThoeny: CgiContrib:
[3:24pm] PeterThoeny: new contrib by harald, now packaged and available
[3:24pm] PeterThoeny: intended for admins who want to install the latest production twiki on latest centos
[3:25pm] HideyoImazu: what happens if CgiContrib is installed with a Perl release having CGI.pm ?
[3:26pm] PeterThoeny: the one in the contrib has priority
[3:27pm] PeterThoeny: next:
[3:27pm] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Plugins/GlobalReplacePlugin
[3:27pm] PeterThoeny: small enhancement & fix
[3:27pm] PeterThoeny: TWikibug:Item7568: Support \t, \r, \n in replace string; remember selected web in global 
search and replace form
[3:27pm] PeterThoeny: that is all on extensions
[3:27pm] PeterThoeny: anything?
[3:27pm] HideyoImazu: incidentally, http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Plugins/JStorageContrib becomes blank after 
being displayed. on my Mac both with Safari and Chrome
[3:28pm] PeterThoeny: hmm
[3:29pm] PeterThoeny: not sure why
[3:30pm] PeterThoeny: if browser does not support jstorage, the data is always retrieved via ajax, and not stored
[3:31pm] PeterThoeny: ---++ 3. Review Urgent and Not So Urgent Bugs
[3:31pm] PeterThoeny: http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/WebChanges
[3:31pm] PeterThoeny: the recent bug items are all about the extensions we already covered
[3:32pm] PeterThoeny: anything on bugs?
[3:32pm] HideyoImazu: no
[3:32pm] PeterThoeny: ---++ 4. Miscellaneous
[3:32pm] PeterThoeny: anything?
[3:33pm] HideyoImazu: nothing from me now
[3:33pm] PeterThoeny: nothing twiki related from me
[3:34pm] PeterThoeny: so let's cose the official meeting
[3:34pm] PeterThoeny: on tuesday i went to a japanese pitch event in san francisco
[3:34pm] PeterThoeny: http://www.eventbrite.com/e/japannight-viii-finals-in-san-francisco-tickets-18911053470
[3:34pm] HideyoImazu: I saw your posting on Facebook
[3:35pm] PeterThoeny: 80 companies applied in tokyo
[3:35pm] PeterThoeny: 12 were selected to pitch in tokyo
[3:36pm] PeterThoeny: 5 finalists were invited to pitch their startup in san francisco
[3:36pm] PeterThoeny: it's apparently a yearly thing
[3:36pm] PeterThoeny: was a fun event
[3:36pm] PeterThoeny: have you heard of btrax the organizer?
[3:36pm] HideyoImazu: no
[3:36pm] PeterThoeny: i did not know until recently
[3:37pm] PeterThoeny: that's it from me
[3:37pm] PeterThoeny: i'll post the logs and minutes
[3:37pm] HideyoImazu: ok. ttyl!
[3:38pm] PeterThoeny: ttyl HideyoImazu-san!