Subject: KampalaMeetingLog2015x08x20.txt
Date: August 20, 2015 4:02:16 PM PDT

[2:59pm]  HideyoImazu joined the chat room.
[3:00pm] PeterThoeny: hi HideyoImazu-san!
[3:00pm] PeterThoeny: good morning
[3:00pm] PeterThoeny: last night i went to san francisco
[3:00pm] PeterThoeny: took this hdr shot: https://www.flickr.com/photos/peterthoeny/20547842848/
[3:01pm] HideyoImazu: a nice photo!
[3:01pm] PeterThoeny: thanks
[3:01pm] HideyoImazu: I was on a bus tour to Nagano over the weekend together with my parents
[3:02pm] PeterThoeny: i went to a demo of a virtual reality thing in the real world
[3:02pm] PeterThoeny: nice, i loke nagano-ken
[3:02pm] PeterThoeny: "like"
[3:02pm] HideyoImazu: http://himazu.blogspot.jp/2015/08/blog-post.html
[3:03pm] HideyoImazu: all pictures were taken with iPhone 5s. So they are not as good as yours
[3:03pm] PeterThoeny: 5s makes nice photos provided you have enough light
[3:04pm] PeterThoeny: my photos look nice because of the hdr processing
[3:04pm] PeterThoeny: 奈良井宿 looks nice
[3:04pm] PeterThoeny: reminds me of tsumago in gifu-ken
[3:05pm] HideyoImazu: it looked like an Edo period town
[3:05pm] PeterThoeny: it likely is one of the towns of the main road that connected kyoto and edo
[3:06pm] PeterThoeny: like tsumago and magome
[3:06pm] HideyoImazu: that's right
[3:06pm] PeterThoeny: if i remember correctly there were about 50 minshuku towns between the two cities
[3:07pm] HideyoImazu: there are two routes between edo and kyoto
[3:07pm] HideyoImazu: each has about 50 towns along
[3:07pm] PeterThoeny: here is a photo of the virtual reality demo: 
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153455695098950&l=39b0808fe0
[3:08pm] PeterThoeny: really cool - i played indy jones
[3:08pm] PeterThoeny: walked in a dark room with a torch
[3:08pm] PeterThoeny: very realistic
[3:08pm] HideyoImazu: had an immersive experience?
[3:10pm] PeterThoeny: indeed
[3:10pm] PeterThoeny: time check: +10 min
[3:10pm] PeterThoeny: start?
[3:10pm] HideyoImazu: sure
[3:11pm] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/KampalaReleaseMeeting2015x08x20
[3:11pm] PeterThoeny: 1. Feature Requests for Kampala Release
[3:11pm] PeterThoeny: 2. Extensions
[3:11pm] PeterThoeny: 3. Review Urgent and Not So Urgent Bugs
[3:11pm] PeterThoeny: 4. Miscellaneous
[3:11pm] PeterThoeny: ---++ 1. Feature Requests for Kampala Release
[3:11pm] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/WebChanges
[3:11pm] PeterThoeny: no changes in feature requests
[3:11pm] PeterThoeny: anything?
[3:12pm] HideyoImazu: no
[3:12pm] PeterThoeny: ---++ 2. Extensions
[3:12pm] HideyoImazu: actually i'm still on vacation -- goofing off at home
[3:12pm] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Plugins/WebChanges
[3:12pm] PeterThoeny: haha
[3:12pm] PeterThoeny: thanks for joining anyway!
[3:12pm] HideyoImazu: np
[3:13pm] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Plugins/TreePlugin
[3:13pm] PeterThoeny: i fixed a bug
[3:13pm] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Plugins/SendMailPlugin
[3:14pm] PeterThoeny: i enhanced the plugin to understand also wikiword for from, to, cc, and bcc fields
[3:14pm] PeterThoeny: if wikiword, the person's e-mail is looked up from the password manager
[3:15pm] PeterThoeny: i needed this for an "invite to participants" interactive form as part of a twiki 
app for a client
[3:15pm] HideyoImazu: I've been using SendEmailPlugin. Maybe SendMailPlugin is superior?
[3:16pm] PeterThoeny: they are similar but serve different purposes
[3:16pm] PeterThoeny: the SendEmailPlugin focuses on nice form layout
[3:17pm] PeterThoeny: the SendMailPlugin plugin focues on flexibility, used by twiki apps
[3:17pm] HideyoImazu: ok
[3:19pm] PeterThoeny: for example, in the app i just did, a form asks for user names (with autocomplete), 
on "invite" button a modal dialog box is opened showing a form with default e-mail subject and body; on 
submit, an ajax call is done do a rest function to send the mail
[3:19pm] PeterThoeny: that is all i had on extensions
[3:19pm] PeterThoeny: anything else?
[3:20pm] HideyoImazu: no
[3:20pm] PeterThoeny: ---++ 3. Review Urgent and Not So Urgent Bugs
[3:20pm] PeterThoeny: http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/WebChanges
[3:20pm] PeterThoeny: just the items mentioned in the extensions section
[3:20pm] PeterThoeny: i don't have anything else on bugs
[3:21pm] PeterThoeny: looks like a short meeting
[3:21pm] HideyoImazu: right
[3:21pm] PeterThoeny: ---++ 4. Miscellaneous
[3:21pm] PeterThoeny: i have one item
[3:21pm] PeterThoeny: next major twiki release
[3:22pm] PeterThoeny: we should eye a date to work towards tp
[3:22pm] PeterThoeny: "to"
[3:22pm] HideyoImazu: ok
[3:22pm] PeterThoeny: for me, one key feature should be finished for this release:
[3:22pm] PeterThoeny: app packaging and installer
[3:23pm] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/TWikiAppInstaller
[3:23pm] PeterThoeny: unfortunately no progress for quite some time
[3:23pm] PeterThoeny: i need to focus on paying client gigs
[3:24pm] PeterThoeny: as a target, it would be nice to have new release ready by the end of the year
[3:25pm] PeterThoeny: what do you think of release timing?
[3:25pm] HideyoImazu: I no strong opinion. but we should release at least once a year
[3:25pm] HideyoImazu: so by the end of this year is good for that
[3:27pm] PeterThoeny: yes
[3:27pm] PeterThoeny: that is all i have
[3:27pm] PeterThoeny: anything else?
[3:28pm] HideyoImazu: I have a prototype of twiki skin I was talking last time working
[3:28pm] HideyoImazu: it's responsive and modern looking
[3:28pm] HideyoImazu: thanks to the two interns who worked on it
[3:28pm] PeterThoeny: nice!
[3:29pm] PeterThoeny: plans to package and release?
[3:30pm] HideyoImazu: sure
[3:30pm] HideyoImazu: I need to get rid of the proprietary things in it though
[3:30pm] HideyoImazu: currently it's based on a locally enhanced version of Bootstrap
[3:31pm] PeterThoeny: so, either release with modified bootstrap lib, or fix to work with vanilla 
bootstrap, right? which one?
[3:32pm] HideyoImazu: the latter
[3:32pm] HideyoImazu: when I said "proprietary", it mean the bootstrap mod
[3:33pm] PeterThoeny: ok
[3:34pm] PeterThoeny: anything else? shall we close the meeting?
[3:34pm] HideyoImazu: nothing else from me. we can close the meeting
[3:35pm] PeterThoeny: ok
[3:35pm] PeterThoeny: thanks for hanging out in your vacation!
[3:35pm] PeterThoeny: i'll post the logs
[3:35pm] PeterThoeny: ttyl Hideyo-san!
[3:35pm] HideyoImazu: ttyl