Subject: KampalaMeetingLog2014x07x03.txt
Date: July 3, 2014 3:39:05 PM PDT

[3:01pm]HideyoImazu:Hi Peter!
[3:01pm]PeterThoeny:hi hideyo-san!
[3:03pm]PeterThoeny:how are things?
[3:03pm]HideyoImazu:same old, same old
[3:03pm]HideyoImazu:how about you?
[3:03pm]PeterThoeny:i had a great time at the black rock desert in nevada
[3:04pm]PeterThoeny:surreal environment
[3:04pm]PeterThoeny:very flat, in fact the biggest flat space on earth
[3:04pm]HideyoImazu:how fast did the car get?
[3:05pm]PeterThoeny:i drove max 75 mph
[3:05pm]PeterThoeny:you could go faster
[3:05pm]PeterThoeny:the flat part of the desert is 500+ km2
[3:07pm]PeterThoeny:world speed record for land vehicles is at black rock desert
[3:07pm]PeterThoeny:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_speed_record
[3:07pm]PeterThoeny:first supersonic is also at black rock
[3:08pm]PeterThoeny:many rockets that were launched were also supersonic
[3:08pm]PeterThoeny:my old cork screw rocket did not go that fast!
[3:09pm]HideyoImazu:ah, sorry you went there for rockets not for a land speed world record
[3:09pm]PeterThoeny:yes, vertical, not horizontal 
[3:09pm]HideyoImazu:even when I was in elementary school, black rock desert was famous
[3:10pm]PeterThoeny:ah, so you know
[3:10pm]HideyoImazu:back then "blue flame" was the world record holder
[3:10pm]PeterThoeny:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Flame
[3:10pm]HideyoImazu:I got to know that from a kid's magazine
[3:10pm]PeterThoeny:ah, that one broke 1000 km/h
[3:11pm]PeterThoeny:ah., but that one was at bonneville salt flats
[3:11pm]HideyoImazu:oh. not at black rock
[3:13pm]HideyoImazu:i'm hoping my YAPC::Asia talk is adopted
[3:13pm]PeterThoeny:yes, that would be cool!
[3:13pm]PeterThoeny:is it hard to get a talk accepted?
[3:13pm]HideyoImazu:don't know
[3:14pm]PeterThoeny:i guess it depends how many proposals they have
[3:14pm]HideyoImazu:seeing other talks, it shouldn't be so hard to be accepted
[3:14pm]PeterThoeny:knock on wood
[3:15pm]PeterThoeny:http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/KampalaReleaseMeeting2014x07x03
[3:15pm]PeterThoeny:usual agenda:
[3:15pm]PeterThoeny:1. Feature Requests for Kampala Release
[3:15pm]PeterThoeny:2. Extensions
[3:15pm]PeterThoeny:3. Review Urgent and Not So Urgent Bugs
[3:15pm]PeterThoeny:4. Miscellaneous
[3:15pm]PeterThoeny:---++ 1. Feature Requests for Kampala Release
[3:15pm]PeterThoeny:twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/TWikiFeatureProposals
[3:16pm]PeterThoeny:http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/VarVARbooleanVarISTRUE
[3:16pm]PeterThoeny:http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/VarVARbooleanVarISTRUE
[3:16pm]PeterThoeny:have we overlooked that one?
[3:17pm]HideyoImazu:we discussed two meetings back or so
[3:17pm]PeterThoeny:in any case, accepted by 7 days feedback
[3:17pm]PeterThoeny:status is still "under investigation"
[3:18pm]HideyoImazu:it's only a matter of my laziness - not updating the topic
[3:18pm]HideyoImazu:ah maybe we didn't discuss on a release meeting
[3:18pm]PeterThoeny:i see no other new proposals
[3:18pm]PeterThoeny:anything?
[3:18pm]HideyoImazu:no
[3:19pm]PeterThoeny:---++ 2. Extensions
[3:19pm]PeterThoeny:http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Plugins/WebChanges
[3:19pm]PeterThoeny:as usual, lots of activity
[3:19pm]PeterThoeny:http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Plugins/WhereIsPlugin
[3:19pm]PeterThoeny:is about done
[3:19pm]HideyoImazu:cool
[3:19pm]HideyoImazu:you are working on it hard
[3:20pm]PeterThoeny:yes, fun work
[3:20pm]PeterThoeny:this time i did something nifty:
[3:20pm]PeterThoeny:update location data in a twiki table using ajax calls
[3:20pm]PeterThoeny:so it looks and feels like a spreadsheet
[3:21pm]PeterThoeny:table looks like a regular table
[3:21pm]PeterThoeny:when you hover over a row it changes into edit mode
[3:21pm]PeterThoeny:when you press "update" it does the ajax call to the rest function to update 
the location
[3:22pm]PeterThoeny:the ajax confirm will asynchroneously update the static text
[3:22pm]PeterThoeny:it's actually quite easy with jquery
[3:22pm]PeterThoeny:i am getting to really like jquery
[3:23pm]PeterThoeny:maybe i should write a blog post on this
[3:24pm]PeterThoeny:could be useful for in-place editing of twikiforms reports
[3:24pm]HideyoImazu:I didn't like JavaScript in general. But these days I'm not hating it. I can 
get things done with JavaScript comfortably.
[3:24pm]PeterThoeny:http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Plugins/DirectedGraphPlugin
[3:25pm]PeterThoeny:the package was out of date
[3:25pm]PeterThoeny:you fixed a bug last year to work on twiki-6.0
[3:25pm]PeterThoeny:http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Plugins/ModalBoxAddOn
[3:25pm]PeterThoeny:thanks for ie fix!
[3:26pm]PeterThoeny:http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Plugins/TopMenuSkin
[3:26pm]HideyoImazu:I had no option but did that
[3:26pm]PeterThoeny:context sensitive tooltip help for jump box and search box
[3:27pm]PeterThoeny:that is all on extensions
[3:27pm]PeterThoeny:anything else?
[3:27pm]HideyoImazu:no
[3:27pm]PeterThoeny:---++ 3. Review Urgent and Not So Urgent Bugs
[3:27pm]PeterThoeny:http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki4/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/WebChanges
[3:27pm]PeterThoeny:harald joerg did a number of unit test fixes
[3:28pm]PeterThoeny:they need to be checked in
[3:28pm]PeterThoeny:that is all i have on bugs
[3:28pm]HideyoImazu:sorry for my bad memory, but how did Harald get involved with unit tests?
[3:29pm]PeterThoeny:he runs a twiki
[3:29pm]PeterThoeny:and probably likes to make sure that all is cosher
[3:29pm]HideyoImazu:great!
[3:29pm]PeterThoeny:it is good to have developers on board with attention to detail
[3:29pm]PeterThoeny:german quaility work
[3:30pm]PeterThoeny:"quality"
[3:30pm]PeterThoeny:anything else on bugs?
[3:30pm]HideyoImazu:among europeans, germans are most diligent and meticulous, stereotypically?
[3:31pm]PeterThoeny:i'd say germans & swiss
[3:31pm]HideyoImazu:german speaking people?
[3:31pm]PeterThoeny:yes, you could say
[3:31pm]HideyoImazu:or swiss even if they speak italian?
[3:31pm]PeterThoeny:so that can include austria as well
[3:32pm]PeterThoeny:---++ 4. Miscellaneous
[3:32pm]HideyoImazu:national borders there are really artificial
[3:32pm]PeterThoeny:anything?
[3:32pm]HideyoImazu:no
[3:32pm]PeterThoeny:is there anything i can do to help your talk?
[3:32pm]PeterThoeny:thanks for the initiative!
[3:33pm]HideyoImazu:spread the word and have many people "like" it
[3:33pm]PeterThoeny:ok
[3:33pm]PeterThoeny:like it?
[3:34pm]PeterThoeny:i read about re-tweets
[3:34pm]PeterThoeny:so, also fb like?
[3:35pm]HideyoImazu:http://yapcasia.org/2014/talk/show/6cddba94-00b7-11e4-b7e8-e4a96aeab6a4 has 
several SNSs features incorporated
[3:35pm]HideyoImazu:fb, g+, etc.
[3:36pm]PeterThoeny:ok
[3:36pm]HideyoImazu:the event organiser is saying that the number of "like"s is a factor for 
acceptance
[3:36pm]HideyoImazu:though not the only factor
[3:36pm]PeterThoeny:ok
[3:37pm]PeterThoeny:let's close the meeting
[3:37pm]PeterThoeny:thanks hideyo-san!
[3:37pm]PeterThoeny:i'll post the notes
[3:37pm]HideyoImazu:it's a quick one.
[3:37pm]HideyoImazu:thanks, Peter!
[3:37pm]HideyoImazu:ttyl