Date: July 18, 2011 11:02:18 AM PDT
Subject: IstanbulMeetingLog2011x07x18.txt

[10:04am] PeterThoeny: hi george, sorry for being late
[10:05am] GeorgeTrubisky: no problem
[10:05am] GeorgeTrubisky: peter, I have a hard stop at 11 pst today
[10:05am] PeterThoeny: just back from a buddhist event, house purification
[10:05am] GeorgeTrubisky: ic
[10:05am] PeterThoeny: ok, let's start
[10:06am] PeterThoeny: meeting topic at http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/IstanbulReleaseMeeting2011x07x18
[10:06am] PeterThoeny: proposed agenda:
[10:06am] PeterThoeny: 1. TWiki-5.1 Release Coordination
[10:06am] PeterThoeny: 2. Code Name After Istanbul Release
[10:06am] PeterThoeny: 3. Review Urgent and Not So Urgent Bugs
[10:06am] PeterThoeny: 4. Miscellaneous
[10:06am] PeterThoeny: ---++ 1. TWiki-5.1 Release Coordination
[10:07am] PeterThoeny: rc1 looks good
[10:07am] PeterThoeny: i found one issue
[10:08am] PeterThoeny: not possible to create initial bookmark topic if crypt token is enabled (do
fight cross site scripting attacks)
[10:08am] PeterThoeny: i will fix that bug
[10:08am] GeorgeTrubisky: the release notes are incomplete
[10:09am] PeterThoeny: yes, i can work on the rel notes
[10:09am] PeterThoeny: how was the build process?
[10:09am] PeterThoeny: anything we can improve?
[10:09am] GeorgeTrubisky: the details are there but no summary
[10:09am] GeorgeTrubisky: I didn't know what to put on the email announcement
[10:10am] GeorgeTrubisky: I've made some minor updates to the build topic
[10:11am] PeterThoeny: yes, also the download topic misses the description and feature list
[10:11am] PeterThoeny: yesterday i created the download topic
[10:11am] GeorgeTrubisky: I'm also concerned about the one unit test that is failing
[10:11am] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/TWikiRelease05x01x00rc1
[10:12am] PeterThoeny: well, rc do not need to be perfect
[10:12am] PeterThoeny: but yes, we need to fix that
[10:12am] PeterThoeny: e.g. investigate and fix
[10:13am] PeterThoeny: the local install i did from zip is at 
http://thoeny.org/cgi-bin/bin-510/view/TWiki/TWikiReleaseNotes05x01
[10:14am] PeterThoeny: let me take this:
[10:14am] PeterThoeny: - fix rel notes
[10:14am] PeterThoeny: - fix download topic
[10:14am] PeterThoeny: - fix bookmark topic issue
[10:14am] PeterThoeny: do you have time to look at unit test?
[10:15am] GeorgeTrubisky: the unit test that is failing (TestCaseAutoSearch) depends on a certain
type of skin...
[10:15am] PeterThoeny: ah, so likely a unit test issue, not a code issue
[10:17am] PeterThoeny: you noticed issue in TWiki.WebHome not linking to latest rel notes
[10:17am] PeterThoeny: easy to fix
[10:17am] GeorgeTrubisky: the corresponding automated test case also fails (this is new)
[10:17am] PeterThoeny: i can do that
[10:17am] GeorgeTrubisky: I fixed that already
[10:17am] PeterThoeny: ah, thanks
[10:17am] GeorgeTrubisky: I generated a new set of build files and uploaded...sent an email about that
[10:17am] PeterThoeny: yes, just read now
[10:18am] PeterThoeny: i had no time to open my mac this morning
[10:19am] GeorgeTrubisky: so if your ok with the current state of rc1, I can put out the email.  But
I need some details about the features of the release...basically updated release notes
[10:19am] PeterThoeny: yes, let me update the download page first, after the meeting
[10:19am] PeterThoeny: you can use that info for the e-mail
[10:20am] GeorgeTrubisky: ok.  Did you get a chance to send me an example release email?
[10:20am] PeterThoeny: and i'll forward a previous rc announce email
[10:20am] GeorgeTrubisky: cool
[10:20am] PeterThoeny: sorry, not yet
[10:20am] PeterThoeny: anything on build process we could improve?
[10:21am] GeorgeTrubisky: I'm sure the build script could be automated more, but nothing specific
[10:21am] PeterThoeny: ok
[10:22am] PeterThoeny: at this point it does not look that we need an rc2
[10:22am] PeterThoeny: so we might be able to build production soon
[10:22am] GeorgeTrubisky: hmmm
[10:22am] PeterThoeny: pending is still string freeze with translations
[10:22am] PeterThoeny: and the backuprestoreplugin
[10:22am] GeorgeTrubisky: there is outstanding work on the core backup plugin
[10:22am] PeterThoeny: yes
[10:23am] PeterThoeny: so i will be busy for the next week or so
[10:23am] PeterThoeny: but this is worth while
[10:23am] GeorgeTrubisky: so lots more commits.  So I would think we would want a rc2
[10:23am] PeterThoeny: the backup plugin uses only very basic core stuff so that it can run also on
very old twiki installations
[10:24am] GeorgeTrubisky: ok, your call
[10:24am] PeterThoeny: done so by design so that old twikis can be pdated easily
[10:24am] PeterThoeny: can we target production in two weeks?
[10:24am] PeterThoeny: too ambitious?
[10:25am] GeorgeTrubisky: weekend of the 30th and 31st ?
[10:25am] GeorgeTrubisky: that was the original plan.  I'm still ok with that
[10:26am] PeterThoeny: on sat i have a big event with local swiss club
[10:26am] PeterThoeny: i only have time on sunday
[10:26am] GeorgeTrubisky: I can push out 1 week....August 6th
[10:27am] PeterThoeny: although i can be reached on sat via skype
[10:27am] PeterThoeny: how about building on sunday and releasing on monday aug 1st?
[10:28am] PeterThoeny: aug 1st is swiss national holiday
[10:28am] PeterThoeny:
[10:28am] GeorgeTrubisky: ok.  I cannot start till the afternoon on Sunday, (1:30) but I'll do some
work on Saturday to prepare
[10:29am] GeorgeTrubisky: So Sunday at 1:30 we will skype meet
[10:30am] GeorgeTrubisky: August 1st
[10:30am] PeterThoeny: sounds good
[10:30am] PeterThoeny: and if by a few days we are not ready we can shift by one week, ok?
[10:31am] GeorgeTrubisky: Wait, that is Sunday July 31st
[10:31am] GeorgeTrubisky: yes
[10:32am] PeterThoeny: one more thing about release
[10:32am] PeterThoeny: peter jones posted new code at
[10:33am] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/RollbackAttachmentVersion
[10:33am] PeterThoeny: we are in code freeze
[10:33am] PeterThoeny: it is up to you to decide if we should take into 5.1 or not
[10:33am] GeorgeTrubisky: core?
[10:34am] PeterThoeny: this is core enhancement
[10:34am] PeterThoeny: he posted code in proposal topic
[10:34am] PeterThoeny: so if we take it by exception we have to test if everything works, and should
see if user interface is good too
[10:35am] PeterThoeny: by spec as peter jones posted today it looks good
[10:36am] GeorgeTrubisky: I'm ok with recreating rc1 if it can be committed and tested by Tuesday PM PST
[10:37am] PeterThoeny: no, that would be an rc2
[10:37am] PeterThoeny: problem is i do not have time to test this feature
[10:40am] PeterThoeny: so if you are ok with exception and you have time to test we can take this feature
[10:40am] GeorgeTrubisky: the files are not checked in yet, correct?
[10:40am] PeterThoeny: correct
[10:40am] PeterThoeny: and he posted the files, not the diffs
[10:40am] PeterThoeny: hopefully he took from latest trunk
[10:41am] GeorgeTrubisky: looking at the attachments, I'm not clear on what needs to be checked in
[10:41am] GeorgeTrubisky: I'l have to look at more.  No decision yet
[10:42am] PeterThoeny: sort by date
[10:42am] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/RollbackAttachmentVersion?sortcol=4;table=2;up=0#sorted_table
[10:42am] PeterThoeny: you see two files attached with today's date
[10:42am] GeorgeTrubisky: yes.  Just those 2?
[10:43am] PeterThoeny: hmm, issue
[10:43am] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/p/pub/Codev/RollbackAttachmentVersion/Upload.pm
[10:43am] PeterThoeny: has: # Copyright (C) 1999-2010 ...
[10:44am] PeterThoeny: trunk has: # Copyright (C) 1999-2011 ...
[10:44am] PeterThoeny: so this is not based on latest trunk
[10:45am] GeorgeTrubisky: I'll have to diff the file and pick out the changes
[10:46am] GeorgeTrubisky: is the attachtables.tmpl new?
[10:47am] PeterThoeny: no
[10:47am] PeterThoeny: [thweb@structuredwikis templates]$ pwd
[10:47am] PeterThoeny: [thweb@structuredwikis templates]$ ls attachtables.*
[10:47am] PeterThoeny: attachtables.classic.tmpl  attachtables.pattern.tmpl  attachtables.tmpl
attachtables.twikinet.tmpl
[10:48am] PeterThoeny: that is in twiki/templates
[10:48am] GeorgeTrubisky: ok
[10:49am] PeterThoeny: anything else on 5.1 rel?
[10:49am] PeterThoeny: time check: +50 min
[10:49am] GeorgeTrubisky: no.  I'll look for your updated release notes
[10:50am] GeorgeTrubisky: yes.  I have to go in 5 minutes
[10:50am] PeterThoeny: yes, check twiki.org's rc1 download topic later today
[10:50am] PeterThoeny: ok
[10:50am] PeterThoeny: ---++ 2. Code Name After Istanbul Release
[10:50am] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/CodeName#JReleaseVote
[10:50am] PeterThoeny: no additional votes
[10:50am] PeterThoeny: so Jerusalem Release it is!
[10:50am] GeorgeTrubisky: ok
[10:51am] PeterThoeny: ---++ 3. Review Urgent and Not So Urgent Bugs
[10:51am] PeterThoeny: http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki4/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/ReleaseBlocker
[10:51am] PeterThoeny: one item is relatively new:
[10:51am] PeterThoeny: Item6739: Using MapIP2SID causes Perl "Can't locate" error
[10:52am] PeterThoeny: http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki4/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/Item6739
[10:52am] PeterThoeny: i'd say this would be nice to fix, but not release stopper
[10:53am] PeterThoeny: any other istem you's like to look at?
[10:53am] GeorgeTrubisky: no
[10:54am] PeterThoeny: neither me
[10:54am] PeterThoeny: ---++ 4. Miscellaneous
[10:54am] PeterThoeny: anything?
[10:55am] GeorgeTrubisky: no.  got to drop off.  I'll look for the rc1 download topic updates later today
[10:55am] PeterThoeny: if not we can close the meeting
[10:55am] PeterThoeny: thanks george!
[10:55am] PeterThoeny: i'll post the minutes and do that stuff i said
[10:57am] PeterThoeny: bye george