Date: October 25, 2010 10:56:15 AM PDT
Subject: IstanbulMeetingLog2010x10x25.txt

[10:05am]  peterthoeny joined the chat room.
[10:05am]  JimLewis joined the chat room.
[10:06am] peterthoeny: hi jim
[10:06am] peterthoeny: welcome to the release meeting
[10:06am] JimLewis: Hello
[10:07am] peterthoeny: how are you using twiki?
[10:08am] peterthoeny: agenda of meeting is at http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/IstanbulReleaseMeeting2010x10x25
[10:09am] peterthoeny: let's wait a bit before we start
[10:09am] JimLewis: Well Peter,  I Have used it in the past for all sorts of company documentation.  It's been 
2 years since I have used it though.
[10:09am] JimLewis: I have a new project that would be right up Twiki's avenue so to speak.
[10:09am] JimLewis: New company.
[10:10am] peterthoeny: ah, congrats on new job
[10:10am] peterthoeny: are you a developer?
[10:11am] JimLewis: Yes and no....
[10:11am] JimLewis: DBA
[10:11am] JimLewis: Not a perl programmer
[10:12am] peterthoeny: how big is the team you would like to use twiki for?
[10:12am] JimLewis: Well we have about 450 employees of that about 250 to 300.
[10:13am] peterthoeny: twiki is good to get large teams together
[10:14am] peterthoeny: are you distributed or all at same location?
[10:14am] JimLewis: 10 locations
[10:14am] peterthoeny: ideal for twiki
[10:14am] peterthoeny: when i worked at wind river we had a similar situation
[10:14am] JimLewis: I have found it to be very flexible in the past
[10:14am] peterthoeny: i created a twiki app for project/program management
[10:15am] peterthoeny: see http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Main/TWikiSuccessStoryOfWindRiver
[10:16am] JimLewis: We have several projects that and departments that need better collaboration on.
[10:17am] JimLewis: I think Twiki will help.
[10:17am] peterthoeny: have you used twikiforms based apps in the past?
[10:17am] JimLewis: yes
[10:18am] peterthoeny: what is your impression as a dba?
[10:18am] peterthoeny: btw i recently wrote a blog on twiki apps, http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Blog/BlogEntry201009x1
[10:19am] JimLewis: Like I said very flexible. Takes a little to get your head around at first but I like how fast you 
can put things together.
[10:20am] JimLewis: I'm in the process of trying to get reacquainted with it.  You have done a great job.
[10:21am] peterthoeny: yes, that is a good point, it takes some time the first time to understand the concept, after 
that very fast to create an app
[10:21am] peterthoeny: i am looking for ways to ease the first step
[10:21am] peterthoeny: any idea how to improve the first step?
[10:21am] peterthoeny: (well not just me, the community)
[10:22am] JimLewis: I will have to differ until a later time Peter.  After a 2 year layoff from Twiki I just started 
last Friday with the  new installation.
[10:23am] peterthoeny: ok
[10:23am] peterthoeny: is your e-mail current on twiki.org?
[10:23am] JimLewis: I don't believe so...
[10:23am] JimLewis: ?
[10:24am] peterthoeny: is this your profile page? http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Main/JimLewis
[10:24am] peterthoeny: that is an old version of homepage
[10:24am] JimLewis: no
[10:24am] peterthoeny: oic
[10:24am] peterthoeny: never mind
[10:25am] peterthoeny: just same name
[10:25am] JimLewis: yup
[10:26am] peterthoeny: i looks like nobody else joining the release meeting this time
[10:26am] peterthoeny: we can keep it informal
[10:26am] peterthoeny: usually we have an agenda
[10:26am] peterthoeny: # 1. Feature Requests for Istanbul Release
[10:26am] peterthoeny: # 2. Review Urgent and Not So Urgent Bugs
[10:26am] peterthoeny: # 4. Miscellaneous
[10:27am] JimLewis: I was gonna sit back and watch... Learn..  I am gonna ask a question on #twiki as I have an 
installation problem.
[10:27am] peterthoeny: chris lahti is working on parameterize variables, or macro feature for twiki
[10:27am] peterthoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/ParameterizedVariables
[10:28am] peterthoeny: i find this a very useful feature for programmers
[10:28am] peterthoeny: once done you can easily define and use macros like in a programming language
[10:29am] JimLewis: is this new to 5?
[10:29am] JimLewis: or not implemented yet?
[10:30am] peterthoeny: work in progress, for twiki 5.1
[10:30am] peterthoeny: i recently finished http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/UserDataManagementApiAndGUI
[10:30am] peterthoeny: also slated for 5.1
[10:30am] peterthoeny: a userfriendly way to manage user data
[10:33am] peterthoeny: and we have a new plugin to handle variables, 
http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Plugins/SetGetPlugin
[10:33am] peterthoeny: this plugin can be installed on twiki-5.0
[10:33am] peterthoeny: i'd like to enhance it to grok/manipulate json syntax
[10:34am] peterthoeny: see proposed spec at http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Plugins/SetGetPluginDev
[10:35am] peterthoeny: i would like to combine jump box and search box feature, 
http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/GoIsSearch
[10:36am] peterthoeny: so this is one feature i will work on
[10:36am] peterthoeny: i invite you to monitor the changes in the codev web on twiki.org
[10:36am] peterthoeny: and provide feedback
[10:36am] peterthoeny: this is a good way to get twiki enhanced based on your needs
[10:37am] JimLewis: Thanks Peter will do.
[10:37am] peterthoeny: we are a small community where you can have an influence
[10:38am] peterthoeny: register on twiki.org if you have not done so, use a middle initial such as JimXLewis
[10:38am] JimLewis: Ok
[10:39am] peterthoeny: if you have installation questions ask in #twiki irc or post a question in the support 
forum on twiki.org
[10:39am] peterthoeny: more people are monitoring the support forum
[10:39am] JimLewis: Thanks Peter
[10:39am] JimLewis: gotta run.
[10:40am] peterthoeny: ok, thanks for stopping by jim
[10:40am] peterthoeny: ttyl
[10:40am]  JimLewis left the chat room. ("Ex-Chat")