Date: October 26, 2009 11:21:43 AM PDT Subject: HelsinkiMeetingLog2009x10x26.txt [10:03am] peterthoeny rejoined the room. [10:03am]peterthoeny:hijoenio and heather [10:03am]peterthoeny:sorry for the delay [10:04am] SopanShewale joined the chat room. [10:04am]peterthoeny:hi sopan [10:05am]SopanShewale:Hi Peter, All  - good morning [10:07am]SopanShewale:Hello [10:08am]peterthoeny:let's give some mpment before we start [10:09am]peterthoeny:i got a mail from pete jones, he is at wikisym and is not sure if he can join this time [10:09am]peterthoeny:alexander bernegger is in vacation [10:10am]peterthoeny:raghu kiran indicated that he would like to join [10:10am]peterthoeny:but i am not sure if he is familiar with irc [10:14am]SopanShewale:Peter-you seems to have done good work during weekend [10:15am]SopanShewale:at least six bugs fixed during weekend  congratulations...and appreciate hard work [10:15am]peterthoeny:yes, several things are done [10:16am]SopanShewale:i checked the new twiki_httpd_conf.txt -  seems to work gr8 [10:20am]peterthoeny:hi joenio, thanks for joining [10:20am]peterthoeny:jitendra kavatekar is trying to join too [10:20am]peterthoeny:he is now installing an irc client [10:22am] Jeet joined the chat room. [10:22am]peterthoeny:hi jeet [10:22am]Jeet:Hi Peter, Hi Everyone [10:22am]peterthoeny:it worked! [10:23am]peterthoeny:colloquy is good on os-x [10:23am]SopanShewale:Hi Jeet - good morning [10:23am]peterthoeny:joenio, could you please introduce yourself? [10:23am]Jeet:Hi Sopan [10:23am] You changed the topic to "http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/HelsinkiReleaseMeeting2009x10x26". [10:23am]peterthoeny:agenda is at http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/HelsinkiReleaseMeeting2009x10x26 [10:24am]peterthoeny:agenda items: [10:24am]peterthoeny:# 1. Feature requests for Helsinki Release [10:24am]peterthoeny:# 2. Review Urgent Bugs [10:24am]peterthoeny:# 3. Miscellaneous [10:24am]peterthoeny:heather and joenio seem to be away [10:25am]peterthoeny:shall we keep this meeting informal, or formal meeting? [10:25am]SopanShewale:I vote for informal [10:25am]Jeet:informal would be my vote as well [10:26am]peterthoeny:ok, let's keep it informal [10:26am]peterthoeny:over the weekend i did some work [10:27am]peterthoeny:http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/DontExposeTWikiRootAsHtmlDocRoot is now done [10:27am]joenio:hi [10:27am]peterthoeny:one more security item plugged [10:27am]peterthoeny:hi joenio, nice to meet you [10:27am]joenio:thx [10:27am]peterthoeny:we have a small group today and decided to have an informal meeting instead of the regular agenda based meeting [10:28am]peterthoeny:a few people are away (wikisym, vacation etc) [10:28am]peterthoeny:wikisym is now in orlando [10:28am]peterthoeny:joenio, could you give a short intro, what your interest is in twiki, how you use it, what org [10:29am]peterthoeny:i am peter, started twiki 11 years ago as a knowledge base for customer support, where designed the engine as a wiki application platform [10:29am]peterthoeny:deployed at wind river with over 1000 employees [10:29am]peterthoeny:did some twiki consulting [10:30am]peterthoeny:co-athored wikis for dummies book [10:30am]joenio:i am use TWiki in my company Colivre at Bahia-Brazil [10:30am]peterthoeny:co-foudned twiki inc 2.5 years ago [10:30am]joenio:since 2006 [10:30am]peterthoeny:nice [10:31am]SopanShewale:joeni - nice meeting you. You TWiki champian at Colivre? [10:31am]peterthoeny:do you know antonio terceiro? [10:31am]joenio:yes [10:32am]peterthoeny:he was contributing for a few years [10:32am]joenio:I work with him [10:32am]peterthoeny:as well as aurelio heckert [10:32am]joenio:and Aurelio Heckert [10:32am]SopanShewale:ah.. nice to meet you [10:32am]peterthoeny:i think aurelio works for colivre as well [10:33am]joenio:yes, he works [10:33am]peterthoeny:jeet (jitenra kavathekar) is our ceo [10:33am]peterthoeny:jeet, do you want to give a brief intro? [10:33am]peterthoeny:sopan as well? [10:33am]Jeet:sure Peter [10:34am]Jeet:I recently (in June) joined as CEO of Twiki to join with Peter to support the twiki project. [10:34am]Jeet:my background is large companies as well as small companies.  Most recently, I did work in Analytics at Yahoo. [10:34am]Jeet:we were very big users of twiki at Yahoo. [10:35am]Jeet:prior to that i used twiki at Motorola and devicescape (startup). [10:35am]Jeet:sopan? [10:35am]peterthoeny:interestingly, many people at devidescape are ex-wind river employees, so they know twiki well [10:36am]SopanShewale:Working with Peter since more than year.. contributed a few plugins/addon's to TWiki in last 2-3 years, used/implemented Kwoledge Management infrastructure of good size company in India [10:36am]peterthoeny:thank you jeet for participating with the community, it means a lot to me! [10:36am]SopanShewale:using TWiki [10:37am]SopanShewale:using TWiki like hammer..whenever i get chance to use it.. i simply use it [10:37am]Jeet:the community is a precious thing and I appreciate being a part of it [10:37am]peterthoeny:joenio, what is your background? perl programmer? [10:38am]joenio:yes, I worked with Perl in jacotei.com.br and Safernet.org.br [10:39am]peterthoeny:do you do some programming work on twiki while at colivre? [10:39am]joenio:and now i works with TWiki/Foswiki and Ruby Rails at Colivre [10:40am]joenio:we make some TWikiApplications [10:40am]joenio:but, not much development in TWiki itself [10:40am]peterthoeny:we run our company on twiki [10:40am]peterthoeny:we built a number of twiki apps [10:41am]peterthoeny:what kind of twiki app did you develop? [10:41am]joenio:our Intranet is on TWiki [10:41am]peterthoeny:time check: +41 (lets close meeting at +60 min) [10:42am] SopanShewale left the chat room. (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) [10:43am]peterthoeny:we lost sopan [10:43am]peterthoeny:he has sometimes bad connection from home [10:43am] SopanShewale joined the chat room. [10:44am]peterthoeny:quick summary what happened since last meeting [10:44am]peterthoeny:we have some plugin updates [10:45am]peterthoeny:daniel rhode (sp?) updated ChecklistPlugin, TimeTablePlugin [10:45am]peterthoeny:i updated  ChartPlugin, TagMePlugin, TopicCreatePlugin [10:46am]peterthoeny:i also fixed DontExposeTWikiRootAsHtmlDocRoo [10:46am]peterthoeny:sorry, DontExposeTWikiRootAsHtmlDocRoot [10:46am]peterthoeny:i also updated the apache config generator [10:47am]peterthoeny:i was considering also to put the "protect attachments with access control" settings into the apache config file [10:47am]peterthoeny:but it might be better to put it in commented out since it imposes a performance hit [10:48am]peterthoeny:so, orgs that need the added security can protect attachments [10:48am] SopanShewale1 joined the chat room. [10:49am]SopanShewale1:hello...sorry i am back [10:49am]peterthoeny:sopan, did you see my summary? [10:50am]SopanShewale1:nope... something wrong with my connection [10:50am]peterthoeny:let me past into your skype chat [10:51am]peterthoeny:done [10:52am]SopanShewale1:hi - i hope you can see this message [10:52am]peterthoeny:yes [10:53am]SopanShewale1:http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki4/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/Item6333 - fixed this - ready to build TWikiDrawPlugin...thats mainly Java stuff [10:53am]peterthoeny:thanks sopan [10:53am]peterthoeny:for others: the recent crypt token based fix broke the twikidrawplugin [10:53am]SopanShewale1:i have also fixed - http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki4/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/Item6276 - this is commentplugin [10:54am]SopanShewale1:this one was not that big coding - but was urgent bug... will be realesed in next release [10:54am]peterthoeny:sopan now passes along crypt tokens to the java applet, and the applet returns them when saving content [10:54am]peterthoeny:ah, how did you fix the commentplugin? [10:55am]SopanShewale1:need to change the Comment Template type defs [10:55am]peterthoeny:ok [10:55am]peterthoeny:good that this is fixed now [10:55am]SopanShewale1:we need to pass  encode="off" in URLPARAM [10:55am]peterthoeny:our current release is very stable [10:56am]peterthoeny:one more item i'd like to point out [10:56am]peterthoeny:the build script automatically added this note at the top of a plugin page when uploading the page to twiki.org: [10:56am]peterthoeny:"This topic is part of the documentation for ChartPlugin and is automatically generated from Subversion. Do not edit it! Your edits will be lost the next time the topic is uploaded! " [10:56am]peterthoeny:"If you want to report an error in the topic, please raise a report at http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki4/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/ChartPlugin" [10:57am]peterthoeny:i found this very uninviting to new contributors [10:57am]peterthoeny:not everybody knows how to use svn [10:57am]peterthoeny:i removed this message [10:57am]SopanShewale1:cool..sounds good [10:58am]peterthoeny:i now add manually this note to the plugins i maintain: [10:58am]peterthoeny:http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Plugins/SpreadSheetPlugin?raw=on [10:58am]peterthoeny: [10:59am]peterthoeny:we have to do more work to make twiki.org more accessible to new contributors [10:59am]SopanShewale1:true [10:59am]peterthoeny:with the new governance we are in a much better position to build up a friendly and inviting community [11:00am]peterthoeny:joenio: do you have some app you consider packaging up and contributing back to the twiki community? [11:02am]peterthoeny:when i find time i'd like to package an app i created for the committee of the local swiss club: database app to manage members, advertisers, suppliers, and event tracker to manage events (crew, material, food, music...) [11:02am]joenio:hmn... [11:03am]joenio:i think no... [11:03am]joenio:sorry [11:03am]peterthoeny:no problem [11:03am]peterthoeny:would you be interested in helping out on plugin dev on twiki.org? [11:05am]joenio:yes, I am... I have a small plugin in TWiki, PodPlugin [11:06am]peterthoeny:cool [11:06am] SopanShewale left the chat room. (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [11:07am]peterthoeny:looking forward seeing you contributions [11:07am]peterthoeny:time check: +67 min [11:07am]peterthoeny:shall we wrap up? [11:07am]peterthoeny:anything on your side sopan? [11:08am]SopanShewale1:nope..not this moment.. i should update Session Proposal in one or two days..and will also update skin related topic [11:08am]SopanShewale1:i just missed that because of my laptop crash... lost some experiments [11:08am]SopanShewale1:nothing from me at this moment [11:09am]Jeet:nothing from me either peter. [11:09am]Jeet:hope your laptop gets well sopan. [11:09am]peterthoeny:ok, thanks all who participated [11:09am]peterthoeny:we can continue discussions on #twiki [11:09am]SopanShewale1: thx... [11:09am]peterthoeny:i will post the log [11:09am]SopanShewale1:bye.. bye Joenio [11:10am] SopanShewale1 left the chat room. [11:10am]peterthoeny:thanks joenio, i invite you to participate next time [11:10am]peterthoeny:bye [11:10am]joenio:bye bye [11:10am]joenio:thanks [11:11am] joenio left the chat room. ("Leaving.")