Date: June 1, 2009 11:26:06 AM PDT
Subject: HelsinkiMeetingLog2009x06x01.txt

[10:04am]  SopanShewale joined the chat room.
[10:05am] SopanShewale:Hello
[10:05am]  PeterJones joined the chat room.
[10:05am] PeterJones:hello Peter
[10:05am] PeterJones:Hello Sopan
[10:05am] SopanShewale:Hello Peter{J,T}
[10:05am] SopanShewale:BRB
[10:06am]  SopanShewale left the chat room. (Client Quit)
[10:07am] peterthoeny:good evening peter jones
[10:07am] peterthoeny:sopan must have network issue
[10:08am] peterthoeny:he also disconnected on IM
[10:08am] PeterJones:Its another holiday in much of europe. Im off work today for Pentcote
[10:10am] peterthoeny:what is pentcote?
[10:11am]  SopanShewale joined the chat room.
[10:11am] peterthoeny:hi sopan
[10:11am] peterthoeny:network issue?
[10:11am] SopanShewale:Hi Again - sorry there was some issue with my laptop - had to reboot it
[10:12am] SopanShewale:you people already started?
[10:13am] PeterJones:Pentcote is 50 days after Easter. It can be called Whitsun.
[10:14am] peterthoeny:oic, pfingsten in german and pentecost / whitesun in english
[10:15am] peterthoeny:sopan, no, not yet started
[10:16am]  peterthoeny changed the topic to
"http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/HelsinkiReleaseMeeting2009x06x01".
[10:16am] peterthoeny:metting topic is at
http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/HelsinkiReleaseMeeting2009x06x01
[10:16am] peterthoeny:"meeting"
[10:16am] peterthoeny:small group today
[10:16am] peterthoeny:shall we start?
[10:17am] SopanShewale:yes
[10:17am] peterthoeny:proposed agenda:
[10:17am] peterthoeny:# 1. Feature requests for Helsinki Release
[10:17am] peterthoeny:# 2. Review Urgent Bugs
[10:17am] peterthoeny:anything to add?
[10:18am] PeterJones:Nothing to add
[10:18am] peterthoeny:---++ 1. Feature requests for Helsinki Release
[10:18am] peterthoeny:http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/TWikiFeatureProposals#ProposalsReadyForReleaseMeeting
[10:18am] peterthoeny:no feature marked as ready for discussion
[10:19am] peterthoeny:any feature we should discuss?
[10:20am] peterthoeny:may be peter j's feature on default editor?
[10:20am] peterthoeny:http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/PreferencesForRawEditOrWysiwygEdit
[10:21am] PeterJones:I failed to implement the IF THEN ELSE clause.
[10:21am] peterthoeny:looking...
[10:22am] PeterJones:It works as PeterThoeny stated but it does not work inside other tags
[10:22am] peterthoeny:hmm, the NEWLINKFORMAT seems to have extra whitespace that may cause issues
[10:23am] peterthoeny:href="......;nowysiwyg=%IF{  "$ EDITMETHOD='wysiwyg'" then="0" then="1"  }%  "
[10:23am] peterthoeny:notice the extra space before the closing quote of href
[10:23am] peterthoeny:the spaces between }% and "
[10:25am] PeterJones:Ok I see I'll give it a try. Can you confirm that there are no restrictions for
these types of clauses?
[10:25am] PeterJones:I mean being part of or included inside another statememt.
[10:26am] peterthoeny:i am not aware that there is a restriction on not being able to use an IF inside
a preferences setting
[10:28am] peterthoeny:sopan, any feature you want to look at / discuss?
[10:29am] SopanShewale:Peter - not at this moment.. i am running behind
[10:30am] peterthoeny:ok, also not on my side
[10:30am] PeterJones:Sopan, any progress in 6151?
[10:30am] peterthoeny:i am also behind  with a few features implementations, such as don;t expose
twiki as htdoc root
[10:30am] peterthoeny:---++ 2. Review Urgent Bugs
[10:31am] SopanShewale:6151 and http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki4/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/Item6269 seems to
be related to each other
[10:31am] peterthoeny:http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki4/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/Item6151 - Mapping of
wikiname to RCS fails when email address used as login (cUID to wikiname error?)
[10:31am] SopanShewale:PeterJ - i could not do much progresss.. got chance to spend very less time...
[10:32am] peterthoeny:yes, likely related
[10:32am] SopanShewale:Peter - i will take ownership of these two bugs
[10:32am] SopanShewale:Sorry PeterJ.. i am taking too much time
[10:33am] peterthoeny:sopan and i are pretty much maxed out at work
[10:34am] PeterJones:I would like to upgrade during June if possible
[10:34am] PeterJones:6151 is blocking the upgrade
[10:34am] SopanShewale:PeterJ - give me this weeks time
[10:34am] peterthoeny:btw, we have some positive changes coming up at work (too early to disclose now)
[10:35am] PeterJones:OK cheers Sopoan
[10:35am] PeterJones:Can you give a taster Peter?
[10:36am] peterthoeny:no, too early
[10:36am] peterthoeny:http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki4/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/ReleaseBlocker
[10:36am] SopanShewale:http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki4/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/Item6270
[10:37am] peterthoeny:"REST upload requires http POST method error in upload via paperclip icon
in TinyMCEPlugin"
[10:37am] SopanShewale:I had also discovered this one -
http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki4/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/Item6270 - while checking tinyMCE libraries
[10:37am] peterthoeny:that was reported by AJ of KQED / NPR
[10:37am] SopanShewale:i think i can take this one
[10:38am] peterthoeny:looks like a one line fix (easy once we find where
[10:38am] SopanShewale:i have seen this issue - this also forces us to check all buttons
functionality after block of "GET" method
[10:38am] SopanShewale:yes..thats easy one
[10:38am] peterthoeny:yes, we missed that one
[10:40am] SopanShewale:shall we move to next items
[10:40am] SopanShewale:other bugs do not seem to be relavent for the discussions - may be as a
release manager, i should remove them or change the priority
[10:41am] peterthoeny:yes
[10:41am] SopanShewale:Peter - http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki4/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/Item6264..  i
think this should also make part of Features
[10:41am] peterthoeny:so, it looks like we are done with bug review?
[10:41am] peterthoeny:any non-urgent to review?
[10:42am] SopanShewale:http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki4/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/Item6264
[10:42am] peterthoeny:"Password reset and password change need to be logged"
[10:42am] peterthoeny:that is an easy one, i can take this feature
[10:43am] peterthoeny:it is important to have a complete audit trail
[10:43am] peterthoeny:i am surprised that we missed this important logging item
[10:43am] SopanShewale:Peter - i think filelock for when password is changed
[10:44am] SopanShewale:we already faced issue once on www.twiki.org box
[10:45am] peterthoeny:what bug item?
[10:45am] SopanShewale:not sure if bug is raised on this
[10:46am] SopanShewale:since we are discussion about password stuff... so thought of mentioning
that issue
[10:47am] peterthoeny:yes, there is a race issue
[10:48am] peterthoeny:not just pwd change, also if 2 people register exactly at the same time
(happened once on twiki.org)
[10:48am] peterthoeny:(once among 40k registrations)
[10:49am] peterthoeny:sopan, could you look if there is a bug item (i recall that there is) and add
the pwd change race condition?
[10:50am] SopanShewale:Ok Peter - i will take care of  raising the issue
[10:50am] peterthoeny:thanks
[10:50am] peterthoeny:anyt other item?
[10:50am] SopanShewale:i am done from my side
[10:50am] peterthoeny:peter j?
[10:51am] peterthoeny:if not, let's close this meeting early
[10:51am] SopanShewale:thanks Peter*
[10:51am] PeterJones:I have nothing to add for this agenda. I have a question thoug concerning
robot erach engines
[10:51am] SopanShewale:have a great day ahead
[10:52am] peterthoeny:if not confidential, shall  we discuss that at #twiki?
[10:52am] PeterJones:Ok
[10:52am] peterthoeny:ok
[10:52am] peterthoeny:thanks sopan and peter j!
[10:53am] PeterJones:See you next tme
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