Date: February 1, 2010 11:28:00 AM PST
Subject: HelsinkiMeetingLog2010x02x01.txt

[10:08am] peterthoeny:the [twikiorgbot] is entering and leaving #twiki every minute
[10:09am] SopanShewale:yes.. thats not from twiki.org
[10:09am] peterthoeny:any idea?
[10:09am] SopanShewale:must be some issue with twikibot server.. do you know who used to run that?
[10:10am] SopanShewale:cn?
[10:10am] peterthoeny:ah, ours is [logger_twiki] ?
[10:12am] peterthoeny:no, [logger_twiki] is cn:
http://colas.nahaboo.net/twikiirc/bin/irclogger_log/twiki?date=2010-02-01,Mon
[10:12am] peterthoeny:so, it is an issue with our logger
[10:13am] SopanShewale:checking
[10:15am] SopanShewale:killed irc job on .org
[10:43am] SopanShewale:Hi Peter
[10:44am] SopanShewale:seems the irc issue is fixed now
[10:46am] peterthoeny:see http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/TWikiOrgStatistics
[10:46am] peterthoeny:we have now >100,000 pages and >45,000 users
[10:47am] peterthoeny:i just updated it
[10:47am] SopanShewale:wow.. huge users
[10:48am] SopanShewale:and pages
[10:48am] peterthoeny:let's do a short meeting
[10:48am] peterthoeny:http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/HelsinkiReleaseMeeting2010x02x01
[10:49am] peterthoeny:# 1. Feature requests for Helsinki Release
[10:49am] peterthoeny:# 2. Review Urgent Bugs
[10:49am] peterthoeny:# 3. Miscellaneous
[10:49am] peterthoeny:shall we skip feature requests this time?
[10:50am] SopanShewale:i wanted to discuss on one feature -
http://www.twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/ConfigurationOnlyAfterAuthentication
[10:51am] peterthoeny:ok
[10:52am] SopanShewale:i have finished some coding of this.. i have pasted Images of the interace,
can you please give your comments? i can checkin the code if the images/workflow is good
[10:52am] SopanShewale:i did not checkin the code.. because we have not yet accepted the proposal
[10:53am] peterthoeny:just looked at it
[10:53am] peterthoeny:spec looks good
[10:54am] peterthoeny:well, it is accepted by 14 day rule
[10:54am] peterthoeny:DateOfCommitment 2010-01-13
[10:54am] peterthoeny:sorry
[10:55am] peterthoeny:yes, it is accepted last friday by 14 day rule
[10:55am] SopanShewale:sure..then i checking the code tomorrow, my time
[10:55am] peterthoeny:what about if cookies are disabled?
[10:56am] SopanShewale:it does not depend on cookies..
[10:56am] SopanShewale:no cookie implementation.. i will correct the proposal document/add my
comments about that correction
[10:58am] peterthoeny:good
[10:58am] peterthoeny:much better this way
[10:58am] peterthoeny:safer
[10:59am] SopanShewale:yup... so expect me to checkin code  tomorrow.. let us move to next item..
if you wish, we can skip other feature requests discussions
[11:02am] peterthoeny:ok
[11:02am] peterthoeny:---++ 2. Review Urgent Bugs
[11:02am] peterthoeny:http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki4/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/ReleaseBlocker
[11:05am] SopanShewale: http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki4/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/Item6391 - i will take
care of this..
[11:05am] SopanShewale:in any case--i was one of the original developer of AttachmentListPlugin
(along with Vinod)
[11:06am] SopanShewale:its not release blocker though
[11:06am] peterthoeny:thanks
[11:06am] peterthoeny:BretHuang suggested a fix
[11:06am] peterthoeny:not sure if this is a proper fix
[11:06am] SopanShewale:Item6140 and item6039- both do not make any sense at this moment.. so am
just closing them
[11:07am] SopanShewale:yes.. need to verify - first issue and then solution suggested by him.
[11:08am] peterthoeny:on Item6140 and Item6039, why close?
[11:08am] peterthoeny:if bug and not urgent we can reprioritize
[11:09am] SopanShewale:sorry - only Item6039
[11:09am] SopanShewale:6140.. i think it will be closed when i fix one of the wysiwyg related
bug this/next week
[11:10am] SopanShewale:its more or less similar to Colar macro issue/css loosing issue...
[11:10am] peterthoeny:ok
[11:10am] SopanShewale:i think 6140 is duplicate bug
[11:11am] peterthoeny:any other bug items you want to look at?
[11:12am] SopanShewale:http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki4/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/Item4688 - this is
important one.. some time we should be doing this
[11:12am] peterthoeny:if not, let's go to
[11:12am] peterthoeny:---++ 3. Miscellaneous
[11:12am] SopanShewale:let us defer to next release
[11:13am] peterthoeny:i propose we release 4.3.3 patch release soon
[11:13am] SopanShewale:ok.. i have no other items from bugs to discuss
[11:13am] SopanShewale:4.3.3 or 5.x?
[11:14am] peterthoeny:original goal is to release 5.0 in march timeframe
[11:14am] SopanShewale:you mean - you are proposing one more patch release?
[11:14am] peterthoeny:i think we should keep that goal
[11:14am] SopanShewale:sure
[11:14am] peterthoeny:in addition i propose to do one more patch release before 5.0
[11:14am] SopanShewale:5.0 in march-we have already agreed on that
[11:14am] SopanShewale:hmm.. ok.. makes sense
[11:15am] peterthoeny:we have many patches ready as listed in
http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki4/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/ReleasableItems
[11:15am] peterthoeny:so it warrants a 4.3.3 release
[11:16am] SopanShewale:sure.. so any time frame you have any timeframe in mind?
[11:16am] SopanShewale:how about this weekend?
[11:16am] peterthoeny:this is up to you as release manager
[11:17am] SopanShewale:i think let us do - release candidate/code freez early next week and
patch release end of the next week.. which is 13Feb
[11:18am] peterthoeny:first, do you agree that we should release one more patch release before
5.0?
[11:18am] SopanShewale:yes.. i think we should do that
[11:18am] peterthoeny:ok
[11:18am] peterthoeny:ok on schedule
[11:20am] SopanShewale:sure
[11:20am] peterthoeny:on 5.0 release, we should think about skin redesign and install/upgrade script
[11:21am] SopanShewale:sure
[11:21am] SopanShewale:skin redesign is little bigger project
[11:22am] SopanShewale:but let us see how we can handle...
[11:23am] SopanShewale:any other items you like to discuss? its almost 1:00 AM
[11:23am] SopanShewale:here
[11:24am] peterthoeny:let me study the QuickMenuSkin s see how it can be integrated into PatternSkin
[11:24am] peterthoeny:very late at your end
[11:24am] peterthoeny:nothing else
[11:24am] peterthoeny:let's close the meeting
[11:24am] peterthoeny:thank you sopan!
[11:24am] SopanShewale:sure.. take care
[11:25am] SopanShewale:bye
[11:25am]  SopanShewale left the chat room.