Date: March 23, 2009 4:46:37 PM PDT
Subject: Georgetown Meeting Log 2009-03-23

[09:58am] Mowgli:Hi
[09:59am] Mowgli:Heute hab ich es mal geschafft.
[10:02am] peterthoeny:hallo klaus, nice to see you here!
[10:02am]  SopanShewale joined the chat room.
[10:03am] peterthoeny:hi sopan
[10:03am] SopanShewale:Good Morning Peter
[10:03am]  You changed the topic to "http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/GeorgetownReleaseMeeting2009x03x23".
[10:04am] peterthoeny:Mowgli: what's new at the eth?
[10:06am]  You are now known as pth.
[10:06am]  You are now known as PeterThoeny.
[10:07am] PeterThoeny:Mowgli: are you there?
[10:07am] SopanShewale:eth?
[10:08am] Mowgli:yes
[10:08am] PeterThoeny:swiss institute of technology
[10:08am] Mowgli:Well, there is the normal living.
[10:08am] SopanShewale:Ah.. ok
[10:08am] Mowgli:All works well...
[10:08am] PeterThoeny:ok
[10:09am] PeterThoeny:i heard from my brother that you have cold but nice weather in switzerland
[10:09am] Mowgli:Well, we updated our own TWiki "Auftritt" (I do not know the right word in english)
[10:09am] PeterThoeny:both brothers went skiing over the weeknd
[10:09am] Mowgli:yes. it is nice. I came by bike to work today.
[10:10am] PeterThoeny:with gloves i presume
[10:10am] Mowgli:But it was cold. Now it gets warmer.
[10:10am] Mowgli:light gloves.
[10:10am] PeterThoeny:we had brunch outside at the veranda
[10:11am] PeterThoeny:time check: +10 min
[10:11am] PeterThoeny:shall we start?
[10:11am] Mowgli:you know, I do not like hot (> 24°) Weather.  incompatible encoding
[10:11am] SopanShewale: visit some time India
[10:11am] PeterThoeny:proposed agenda:
[10:11am] SopanShewale:its always above 30 degree in summer
[10:12am] PeterThoeny:# 1. Review Urgent Bugs
[10:12am] PeterThoeny:# 2. TWiki 4.3 Release Coordination
[10:12am] PeterThoeny:anything to add?
[10:12am] SopanShewale:i dont think so
[10:12am] PeterThoeny:---+ 1. Review Urgent Bugs
[10:12am] PeterThoeny:http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki4/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/ReleaseBlocker
[10:13am] SopanShewale:http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki4/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/Item6214 - seems to be new
[10:15am] PeterThoeny:probably a bug that is out there for a long time
[10:15am] PeterThoeny:i suggest to reprioritize to normal
[10:15am] Mowgli:Hmmm.. I did find somethink like this in the past. It was an Error in the template.
[10:15am] SopanShewale:ok.. i will change the priority-definitely not a blocker
[10:15am] Mowgli:Our own template.
[10:17am] SopanShewale:http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki4/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/Item6140 : Item6140: Table
attributes lost on save
[10:17am] PeterThoeny:proposed hotfix to declare ACRONYMS as WikiWords may be logical, but needs to be
tested thoroughly
[10:17am] SopanShewale:ok Peter - Item6214 - i will take it on my plate
[10:18am] SopanShewale:it needs thorough testing
[10:18am] SopanShewale:http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki4/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/Item6140 : Item6140: Table
attributes lost on save
[10:18am] PeterThoeny:is this a release blocker?
[10:19am] SopanShewale:this is issue with WYSIWYG
[10:19am] Mowgli:I never try the Wysiwyg plugin.
[10:19am] SopanShewale:not a release blocker.. but definitely should be fixed in 4.3.1
[10:20am] PeterThoeny:agreed
[10:20am] PeterThoeny:klaus, what version are you using at eth?
[10:20am] SopanShewale:4.3.1 - should be targeted for fixing/improving Wysiwyg stuff
[10:20am] PeterThoeny:of twiki
[10:21am] PeterThoeny:one strategy is to simply re-use what the maintainer of the wysiwyg integration
is doing (ok with gpl)
[10:21am] Mowgli:just 4.2.0
[10:22am] PeterThoeny:4.2.x has wysiwyg enabled by default, did you disable it?
[10:22am] Mowgli:yes.
[10:22am] SopanShewale:yes.. agree to pick some parts
[10:22am] PeterThoeny:i personally also disabled wysiwyg for me on twiki.org and twiki.net intranet
[10:23am] Mowgli:We have a complete rework of the templates. And it doesn't fit that good with wysiwyg.
[10:23am] PeterThoeny:oic
[10:23am] PeterThoeny:rework of templates or a new skin?
[10:23am] Mowgli:a new skin.
[10:24am] Mowgli:https://www.isg.inf.ethz.ch/TWiki/TWikiSkinBrowser
[10:24am] SopanShewale:http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki4/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/Item6186 : Review code for
robustness and security
[10:25am] SopanShewale:ah.. i forgot to update the bug.. i used ratproxy on the latest code
[10:25am] Mowgli:Would be nice to work on it. But that would be rater time consuming...
[10:25am] SopanShewale:did not find any thing unusual till now.. may be i should use that some more time
[10:26am] PeterThoeny:oh, https://www.isg.inf.ethz.ch/Main/WebHome looks nice
[10:26am] Mowgli:You can use it also without Main and Webhome. (https://www.isg.inf.ethz.ch/)
[10:26am] Mowgli:Thanks. It tuk many work.
[10:27am] SopanShewale:Good Skin man
[10:27am] PeterThoeny:sopan, i think we are in pretty good shape on 6186
[10:28am] Mowgli:The most dificult think was (and is by the way) to have CSS for just one page.
[10:28am] PeterThoeny:it looks like rc1 is in pretty good shape
[10:28am] SopanShewale:https://www.isg.inf.ethz.ch/Main/WebHome - looks nice
[10:28am] SopanShewale:rc1 sounds good
[10:28am] PeterThoeny:Mowgli: you could help us by testing rc1
[10:29am] PeterThoeny:do a test install on a temp machine, and some sanity tests to see if stable for
your need
[10:29am] Mowgli:Sure. Well, I have not that many time but I can try to test a bit around.
[10:30am] PeterThoeny:http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/TWikiRelease04x03x00rc1
[10:30am] SopanShewale:rest from release blocker are either "trunk" only or already worked on
[10:30am] PeterThoeny:so, based on current release blockers are are more or less ready to release?
[10:30am] SopanShewale:yes
[10:31am] PeterThoeny:cool
[10:31am] SopanShewale:we are ready
[10:31am] PeterThoeny:---++ 2. TWiki 4.3 Release Coordination
[10:31am] PeterThoeny:we are in string freeze since 2009-03-04
[10:32am] PeterThoeny:but i have not seen any activity by steffen on translations
[10:32am] SopanShewale:any news on translations?
[10:32am] PeterThoeny:i am concerned that we do not have clean translations for 4.3
[10:32am] PeterThoeny:i found new translators for german, dutch, korean
[10:33am] SopanShewale:hmmm...any idea to involve more translators?
[10:33am] PeterThoeny:korean is done
[10:33am] Mowgli:french?
[10:33am] Mowgli:italien
[10:33am] PeterThoeny:no, we have transtlators, but my concern is that the i have not seen any requests
by coordinator
[10:34am] Mowgli:Ah.
[10:34am] PeterThoeny:translators are listed at http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/TranslationSupport
[10:34am] Mowgli:Ah, ok.
[10:35am] PeterThoeny:french is the only one that is currently open
[10:35am] SopanShewale:peter - any one tried automating this before?
[10:35am] PeterThoeny:i will ask steffen again what is going on
[10:36am] SopanShewale:that will be helpful
[10:36am] PeterThoeny:we need to give one week to translators
[10:36am] SopanShewale:shall we target release before 31st March
[10:37am] SopanShewale:release on or before 31st could be good idea
[10:37am] PeterThoeny:yes
[10:37am] PeterThoeny:let's shoot for mon 03/30
[10:38am] SopanShewale:ok.. good idea
[10:38am] PeterThoeny:that means, translators only have a few days
[10:38am] SopanShewale:
[10:39am] PeterThoeny:sopan, what day do you plan to build release?
[10:39am] PeterThoeny:sun, mon, tue?
[10:39am] SopanShewale:30th March
[10:40am] SopanShewale:i am ok on Sun/Mon
[10:40am] PeterThoeny:ok, i can help out sun night my time / mon morning your time
[10:40am] SopanShewale:yes - good ide
[10:40am] SopanShewale:good ides
[10:40am] SopanShewale:good idea
[10:41am] PeterThoeny:ok, i marked my calendar
[10:41am] SopanShewale:ok
[10:43am] PeterThoeny:anything else on release?
[10:43am] SopanShewale:i guess we are done
[10:43am] PeterThoeny:i think so
[10:43am] PeterThoeny:but one more thing
[10:43am] Mowgli:Good. I just have to leave now.
[10:43am] Mowgli:I will try to do test installation.
[10:44am] PeterThoeny:sopan, could you review the checklist this week to see if we miss something
[10:44am] PeterThoeny:http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/ProductionReleaseChecklist
[10:44am] PeterThoeny:and
[10:44am] PeterThoeny:http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/BuildingARelease
[10:44am] PeterThoeny:i can handle most of ProductionReleaseChecklist
[10:44am] SopanShewale:ok - i will do that
[10:45am] PeterThoeny:BuildingARelease doc needs to be updated
[10:45am] PeterThoeny:may be split into two parts
[10:45am] PeterThoeny:one for 4.3 release, one for 5.0 release build
[10:45am] PeterThoeny:ok, i think we are done
[10:46am] SopanShewale:yes.. do you also want to set automatic build jobs
[10:46am] PeterThoeny:thank you klaus and sopan for participating!
[10:46am] SopanShewale:i mean some job to check test cases etc....
[10:46am] Mowgli:Bye.
[10:46am] PeterThoeny:automatic builds have lower prio i think
[10:46am]  Mowgli left the chat room. ("Grüßt mir die Sterne")
[10:46am] SopanShewale:we can request Sven to stop his job - which is running on old version of release
branch
[10:47am] PeterThoeny:fixing test cases or temporarily commenting out failures in trunk has higher prio
[10:48am] SopanShewale:yes
[10:49am] SopanShewale:we need to setup job
[10:49am] SopanShewale:but we do not have control on Sven's job - which i think is not of use to us
[10:49am] SopanShewale:so setting up job for testcases - but sends good summary/report is high priority
[10:50am] SopanShewale:i will raise the bug for this purpose - and we use develop.twiki.org for this
purpose
[10:50am] PeterThoeny:sounds good
[10:50am] PeterThoeny:ok, i will post the log
[10:50am] SopanShewale:ok
[10:50am] PeterThoeny:thanks sopan
[10:51am] SopanShewale:thx  - have a gr8 day ahead peter
[10:51am] SopanShewale:bye
[10:51am]  SopanShewale left the chat room. ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009021910]")
[10:51am] PeterThoeny:bye